Someone is trying to start a war in the Ukraine, It's NOT Russia (edit: yes it is)

Russia have warned Ukrainians to move away from communication centres as they are next. Precision weapons.Really big bangs by the sound of it.

Russia's comment about civilian causalities. The same as we always hear during conflicts. Troops etc in the same areas. It is a technique that is used and if set up for street fighting etc........................
 
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Russia has just warned all in Kyiv to move away from main gov buildings as they are going to be targeted later toning, early am tomorrow.

IMO, Ukraine should put down her arms and then peacefully block Russian soldiers and let them see for themselves what is happening and hope they turn back

This is looking awful and China sniggering on the side lines just shows their leader mentality thinking he can survive a nuke fallout - having said that almost all leaders will be ok as they bunkers and ability to move family to other places its the ordinary women, children and men that will get it
 
Russia have warned Ukrainians to move away from communication centres as they are next. Precision weapons.Really big bangs by the sound of it.

Russia's comment about civilian causalities. The same as we always hear during conflicts. Troops etc in the same areas. It is a technique that is used and if set up for street fighting etc........................
motorbiking said:
More horrible bombing of people. Not quite sure about this being a legitimate military target.
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Administration building that has been reported to have been empty at the time. I'll be completely honest - why was a camera pointing at it waiting for it to happen? Russian camera maybe? I wondered if it was a saboteur at work.
 
CCTV!

I reckon Putin will just use harder weaponry until he's won. Right up to battlefield nukes or whatever there is now. He doesn't need planes to deliver them so a no fly zone wouldn't stop him. "Give in or get destroyed, why are you bringing this on yourselves?". Simples. Like the bloody meerkats
 
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One or maybe 2 people posting on hear make me think of sheep bleating in a maze as they can't find their way out so jump on anything.

One change that might be important. Russia now accept that Zelenskyy is the present of Ukraine. :( Mind you they would have to do that to negotiate with him.

Me and a pundit on AlJ wonder about an Israeli style move that has cropped up in the past. He like me is also concerned about possible NATO troop build ups now and in the future.

It seems that a 50 odd km procession of Russian stuff is on it's way in. I'll say seems as if some one gave me a satellite image ....................

Balarus could be in or on it's way in. Might even be a feint as other factors could be.
 
Just saw and heard something incredible on RT tv channel

RT London I think it is was interviewing a lady aged about 50
from RT Moscow. Caught the last minute. The presenter
as the lady something like

RT Host - "very quickly we only half a minute left before we move on, do you see us (Russia)
returning to relations as they before the special operations."

Lady She said and appeared she was going to cry "I don't want to scare anyone really what I see is the real possibility
of this war not just being between Ukraine and Russia but a nuclear war between Russia and NATO, people
really need to note that I am not trying to scare anyone but.."

RT Host "ok, thank you."
Then the show moved on the next item
 
Some type of Russian victory ( ?)

is assured

there was never any doubt IMO

failure for Russia / Putin is not an option from day 1
 
The Humanitarian said:
Just saw and heard something incredible on RT tv channel

RT London I think it is was interviewing a lady aged about 50
from RT Moscow. Caught the last minute. The presenter
as the lady something like

RT Host - "very quickly we only half a minute left before we move on, do you see us (Russia)
returning to relations as they before the special operations."

Lady She said and appeared she was going to cry "I don't want to scare anyone really what I see is the real possibility
of this war not just being between Ukraine and Russia but a nuclear war between Russia and NATO, people
really need to note that I am not trying to scare anyone but.."

RT Host "ok, thank you."
Then the show moved on the next item
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Jeez us :rolleyes::confused:o_O

you only just worked out that there is a strong posssbility of all
Out war


:ROFLMAO:
 
ajohn said:
Russia have warned Ukrainians to move away from communication centres as they are next. Precision weapons.Really big bangs by the sound of it.

Russia's comment about civilian causalities. The same as we always hear during conflicts. Troops etc in the same areas. It is a technique that is used and if set up for street fighting etc........................
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Reading on the defence forums there's a growing belief the Russians are for some reason low on precision weapons esp from the Airborne bombers. Obviously all speculation but what they've speculated so far has been pretty accurate. Also the ratio of russian soldiers to Ukraine population means they will struggled to hold Ukraine long term, any puppet president will have to live in a bunker for their own safety.
 
The Humanitarian said:
Just saw and heard something incredible on RT tv channel

RT London I think it is was interviewing a lady aged about 50
from RT Moscow. Caught the last minute. The presenter
as the lady something like

RT Host - "very quickly we only half a minute left before we move on, do you see us (Russia)
returning to relations as they before the special operations."

Lady She said and appeared she was going to cry "I don't want to scare anyone really what I see is the real possibility
of this war not just being between Ukraine and Russia but a nuclear war between Russia and NATO, people
really need to note that I am not trying to scare anyone but.."

RT Host "ok, thank you."
Then the show moved on the next item
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transam said:
Jeez us :rolleyes::confused:o_O

you only just worked out that there is a strong posssbility of all
Out war


:ROFLMAO:
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Stop being a bloody jerk. RT from the several hours I've watched over the last few days have never allowed anything like that to be said. I think the host was a bit shocked and the RT lady close to tears and I hope some Russians watch the channel.

Another news item other than I first posted about ie Russians told people to move away from buildings of interest is

3 of the communist party members often on Putin's side that voted through the indy of Dnbas regions have stated they would have not done that if they knew war would break out

anther item - over a million signatures in Russia agaisnt the war the highest number ever
 
ajohn said:
That would mean a fight between NATO and Russia. Given the build up of NATO in "local" areas is could be something to worry about.
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No - obviously it could if, if, but not necessarily - it would depend on terms.

Saw an article which posed a question - who would be declaring war on whom exactly if GPS were jammed for "safety" reasons? If drones played a big part,, could be a factor. I'm surprised drones aren't being used much afa we know. A couple to hit the tankers and chosen targets in that convoy would be useful. Convoys, honestly, how very 29th century.
I guess we won't know until someone tries.
 
The Humanitarian said:
Stop being a bloody jerk. RT from the several hours I've watched over the last few days have never allowed anything like that to be said. I think the host was a bit shocked and the RT lady close to tears and I hope some Russians watch the channel.

Another news item other than I first posted about ie Russians told people to move away from buildings of interest is

3 of the communist party members often on Putin's side that voted through the indy of Dnbas regions have stated they would have not done that if they knew war would break out

anther item - over a million signatures in Russia agaisnt the war the highest number ever
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so untill some 50 year old in tears went on some video , you had no idea

:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: jeez us wept

what exactly is it you do :?:obviuosly some thing that does not require any common sense :idea:
 
The Russians have not even deployed all there conventional fire power on Ukraine , the more resistance they come against the more likely
it will come to pass

The ukranian army / fighters will be slaughtered

cities will be destroyed brick by brick
 
A communication building being taken out - various press offices inside


Not just AlJ.
 
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