Speed limit

[motorbiking]

I disagree, you can to a large extent control the actions of others around you, and help speed up the flow of traffic by your actions on the road. I will usually hang well back from other vehicles, often I deliberately make space for others to pull out or pull into. I've never been one for tearing from one queue, to the next, better to potter along and hit a pinch point just in time to go through. No point in tearing up to a red light, just ease off and trickle up, with minimum use of brakes.

This kind of driving is described as making smooth progress. It is something anyone on an advanced test is hoping to demonstrate. But you aren't controlling the other driver, you are mitigating their risks as best you can. If you look at the way SEG riders, ride, they impact the traffic minimally while progressing their VIP through. SEG and surveillance riders are generally recognised as the "top gun" of police riders.

 

[motorbiking]

Tailgating is illegal.

Caught on camera – 10,000 tailgaters spotted in just two weeks

Almost 10,000 vehicles were caught tailgating in the first two weeks of new cameras being tested to clamp down on the offence.

www.gov.uk

Reading between the lines - it doesn't say they were prosecuted. Another article says: Motorists caught tailgating by the cameras can expect to receive letters advising them they were too close to another vehicle, highlighting the dangers of not leaving safe braking distances.

 

[Odds]

I can't be expected to remember all the different usenames I've been accused of using.
And you do realise that you're doing exactly what gnat and Brigadier have been doing this morning, making the topic about me rather than the actual topic of the thread?

I thought you'd recall the last incarnation more clearly.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Reading between the lines - it doesn't say they were prosecuted. Another article says: Motorists caught tailgating by the cameras can expect to receive letters advising them they were too close to another vehicle, highlighting the dangers of not leaving safe braking distances.

Nobody is saying tailgaters are not a problem.

Is there a comment somewhere by you saying that tailgating is dangerous driving?

Nobody is defending tailgating, it is careless driving and can be dangerous driving if there are aggravating factors.

 

[Roy Bloom]

I thought you'd recall the last incarnation more clearly.

I find incantations easier to remember .
"hocus pocus" is one of my favourites.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

This kind of driving is described as making smooth progress. It is something anyone on an advanced test is hoping to demonstrate.

Exactly, and it is often faster, better progress than those you see tearing from obstructed point, to obstructed point.

But you aren't controlling the other driver, you are mitigating their risks as best you can. If you look at the way SEG riders, ride, they impact the traffic minimally while progressing their VIP through. SEG and surveillance riders are generally recognised as the "top gun" of police riders.

To a great extent, I would suggest you can - I do all the time. You can vary your spacing, and speed from other vehicles ahead, to either expedite another's progress or not. By simply holding back from a log jam, you can help clear it, rather than exacerbate it. Often at a pinch point, it's possible to speed up your own progress, by simply holding back, rather than bullying your way through, as well as making life easier for others.

 

[Brigadier]

Where road space is not infinite, we all have to accommodate other road users.
Some accommodations are assertive / submissive, others are not.
But, always with the mindset of adapting to the situation as it plays out.

Being assertive - not being an rsehole though - is good, because the OP knows what's likely to happen.
Both the assertive and the submissive are ok then.

Less optimal scenario is two submissives - both dither and faff around, not knowing what the other is doing or is going to do.
Harmless, but causes a lot of unnecessary stress and delay.

Worst is two dominants, who plough on in the mistaken belief that the other is actually (relative to them) a sub.
Typically though, both are in control of the metal (so they only collide if they are making a point), less so of their tempers and egos.
Hand gestures and bulging neck veins, through to punch-ups, are the outcomes in most occasions.

 

[johnny2007]

Is Johnny2007 still following you in his Audi, old spink?

I'm miles ahead by now...

Tailgating is illegal.

Caught on camera – 10,000 tailgaters spotted in just two weeks

Almost 10,000 vehicles were caught tailgating in the first two weeks of new cameras being tested to clamp down on the offence.

www.gov.uk

Define tailgating.
Because it would appear that some members here consider tailgating as being close to the car in front even a crawling pace.

P.S.: I don't tailgate because I know the idiots who like to "brake check", especially Prius drivers.
Usually they only notice me when I'm already ahead of them, so they can't attempt any of their stupid manoeuvres like brake check, lane changing, U-turns, etc.
I personally would like to see slow drivers prosecuted.
30mph on motorway is dangerous.
10mph on 30mph roads is dangerous as well because it frustrates other road users, including cyclists.

 

[motorbiking]

The video in their example is a left hand drive lorry, with foreign plates. Given the widespread insurance scam with foreign freight vehicles you've not got much chance of winning the claim if he rear ends you.

 

[Roy Bloom]

The video in their example is a left hand drive lorry, with foreign plates. Given the widespread insurance scam with foreign freight vehicles you've not got much chance of winning the claim if he rear ends you.

How do you know it's got foreign plates, and registered abroad?

 

[motorbiking]

You can see from the video that it is left hand drive and you can also tell that it hasn't been converted, which would be required if it was to be registered as an import.

 

[Roy Bloom]

You can see from the video that it is left hand drive and you can also tell that it hasn't been converted, which would be required if it was to be registered as an import.

I agree it's left hand drive by the position of the front blind spot mirror.
But what 'conversion' are you referrimg to?

 

[Roy Bloom]

You can see from the video that it is left hand drive and you can also tell that it hasn't been converted, which would be required if it was to be registered as an import.

But what 'conversion' are you referrimg to?

Was mb talking nonsense again?

 

[Munroast]

he put his 'park anywhere' indicators on, which also double up to make tailgating entirely safe - what more do you want?

 

[Roy Bloom]

he put his 'park anywhere' indicators on, which also double up to make tailgating entirely safe - what more do you want?

Munroast joins in the 'talking nonsense' collective.
I rather suspect that mb was talking nonsense and making wild claims based on his biased incorrect assumption.