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I'm sorry I couldn't make it any simpler for you.

I've never driven anywhere without hazards to be aware of.

Visibility is being able to see what's there, and driving accordingly. Tailgaters can still be too close
And have voluntarily reduced their own vision.
 
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Let's put it very simply for you.

MB advised that you slow down.

You got all haughty, claiming that he'd advise you speed up.

Everything else has been you're doubling down on your initial miscomprehension.
No mb was claiming I could control the guy behind by increasing the safety gap.

That gap is only safe if there is nobody too close.
 
No I repeatedly told you, you are in control of exactly one car, the one you are driving and that you can only mitigate the risk posed by others.

You are now confusing the term "clear road". As Brigadier, said, it's not clear if there are hazards. You're just doubling down on your failed argument.

All you can do is mitigate the risk of being tailgated. If you need to stop suddenly the tail gator will hit the back of you. If you can reduce your need to stop suddenly then you reduce the risk of being rear ended. Rather than argue, why don't you google it? All the articles will advise you to:

- Concentrate on your own driving, including checking that your are driving to a good standard
- give clear signals and allow them to pass if possible
- do not brake check them or focus excessively on their tailgating
- try to do things in good time, leaving space in front is one way to have more time.
- Do not escalate, road rage is real and plenty of otherwise normal rational people have found themselves being prosecuted for serious offences because of the red mist.

Nobody is defending tailgating, it is careless driving and can be dangerous driving if there are aggravating factors. Deliberately brake checking them will rarely be anything other than dangerous driving and if you are daft enough to think you can pretend there is an imaginary hazard, then imagine arguing that in court when their is footage of the whole incident.
 
No I repeatedly told you, you are in control of exactly one car, the one you are driving and that you can only mitigate the risk posed by others.

You are now confusing the term "clear road". As Brigadier, said, it's not clear if there are hazards. You're just doubling down on your failed argument.

All you can do is mitigate the risk of being tailgated. If you need to stop suddenly the tail gator will hit the back of you. If you can reduce your need to stop suddenly then you reduce the risk of being rear ended. Rather than argue, why don't you google it? All the articles will advise you to:

- Concentrate on your own driving, including checking that your are driving to a good standard
- give clear signals and allow them to pass if possible
- do not brake check them or focus excessively on their tailgating
- try to do things in good time, leaving space in front is one way to have more time.
- Do not escalate, road rage is real and plenty of otherwise normal rational people have found themselves being prosecuted for serious offences because of the red mist.

Nobody is defending tailgating, it is careless driving and can be dangerous driving if there are aggravating factors. Deliberately brake checking them will rarely be anything other than dangerous driving and if you are daft enough to think you can pretend there is an imaginary hazard, then imagine arguing that in court when their is footage of the whole incident.
Two issues that I've highlighted in bold:
1. You don't reduce the risk of being rear-ended by increasing the gap between you and the vehicle in front. Quitre the reverse, it can easily be argued that you increase that risk of being rear-ended, for the reasons previously given.
2. No-one in their right mind would use their dash-cam footage of driving too close to the vehicle in front as a defence of rear-ending them.

One final point, you don't need to use your brakes, a rear fog light will do the trick. It won't show on your own dashcam, (deceleration) if you have one, and can easily be explained as a mistake. There's no excuse for the rear end collision if you accidentally switch on your rear fog light. They should not have been so close.
 
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Please expand on point 1. Think about what would cause you to be rear ended and what mitigation you could do.

2 its evidence of deliberately causing an accident. Dangerous driving and insurance fraud. Remember, your insurance covers you for "accidents".

On the final point - now you are escalating. Do you think this will do anything other than make the guy annoyed?
 
Please expand on point 1. Think about what would cause you to be rear ended and what mitigation you could do.
Previoulsy explained:
The discussion was about being tailgated.
Mb suggested driving slower to increase the gap in front of you to avoid being rear-ended.
That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
It doesn't prevent you having to make an emergency stop. It could even increase the risk, because another road user could exploit the gap in front of you, for whatever reason, causing you to brake hard.
In addition, it would increase the frustration of the tail-gater, so that they reduce the distance between you and them.
Indeed, if mb talks about stopping distnces, at slower speeds, the tail-gater is likely to be as knowledgable about such things. They will assume they need even less gap to stop, if you do.
Having a larger gap in front of you, or driving slower is likely to enrage the tail-gater behind you.


Please expand
2 its evidence of deliberately causing an accident. Dangerous driving and insurance fraud. Remember, your insurance covers you for "accidents".
As I said, if a tailgater considers using their own dash cam of them driving too close to the car in front as their defence in a rear-end collision, they need their head looking at. Although, that might explain why they were driving too close.

On the final point - now you are escalating. Do you think this will do anything other than make the guy annoyed?
It's a lot less of an escalation to use your rear fog lights, than to 'brake test' them, and safer because you're not decreasing your own speed, while possibly causing them to reduuce speed, and nothing shows on your dash cam.

p.s. tail-gaters are not only males.
 
No I repeatedly told you, you are in control of exactly one car, the one you are driving and that you can only mitigate the risk posed by others.

You are now confusing the term "clear road". As Brigadier, said, it's not clear if there are hazards. You're just doubling down on your failed argument.

All you can do is mitigate the risk of being tailgated. If you need to stop suddenly the tail gator will hit the back of you. If you can reduce your need to stop suddenly then you reduce the risk of being rear ended. Rather than argue, why don't you google it? All the articles will advise you to:

- Concentrate on your own driving, including checking that your are driving to a good standard
- give clear signals and allow them to pass if possible
- do not brake check them or focus excessively on their tailgating
- try to do things in good time, leaving space in front is one way to have more time.
- Do not escalate, road rage is real and plenty of otherwise normal rational people have found themselves being prosecuted for serious offences because of the red mist.

Nobody is defending tailgating, it is careless driving and can be dangerous driving if there are aggravating factors. Deliberately brake checking them will rarely be anything other than dangerous driving and if you are daft enough to think you can pretend there is an imaginary hazard, then imagine arguing that in court when their is footage of the whole incident.
Tell you what.

You drive your car your way and control tailgaters by your method.

I will do it my way and ignore them, or let them pass if they are a class 1 idiot. I much prefer those idiots in front of me than behind.

In all my years of motoring (various classes) I have not yet managed to drive the car behind me at the same time as I drive my own.

No matter how you drive, you cannot control them. And I'm not going to take lessons now on how to pretend to be able to.
 
You are now confusing the term "clear road". As Brigadier, said, it's not clear if there are hazards. You're just doubling down on your failed argument.
No such thing as any road without any hazard, with or without vehicles around.

Visibility is what you can see.
 
If you give yourself more room in front then you can brake more gently than you'd otherwise need to, which gives the idiot behind more of a chance to brake without hitting you.

It's a way to protect yourself from the tailgating vehicle.
 
and in his latest response he is arguing that I am right.
Tell you what.

You drive your car your way and control tailgaters by your method.

I will do it my way and ignore them, or let them pass if they are a class 1 idiot. I much prefer those idiots in front of me than behind.

In all my years of motoring (various classes) I have not yet managed to drive the car behind me at the same time as I drive my own.

No matter how you drive, you cannot control them. And I'm not going to take lessons now on how to pretend to be able to.
great now at least you are getting it, well some of it.
 
No I repeatedly told you, you are in control of exactly one car, the one you are driving and that you can only mitigate the risk posed by others.

Tell you what.

You drive your car your way and control tailgaters by your method.

I will do it my way and ignore them, or let them pass if they are a class 1 idiot. I much prefer those idiots in front of me than behind.

In all my years of motoring (various classes) I have not yet managed to drive the car behind me at the same time as I drive my own.

No matter how you drive, you cannot control them. And I'm not going to take lessons now on how to pretend to be able to.
 
So no matter what you do, you can't control what the person behind does

Been telling you that for ages
 
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