Today UK Deaths 359 vs EU 27 of 314

[ajohn]

Interesting area search for infections and deaths in the UK
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274

High 20% common in even some small concentrations of people. Didn't look at London much but 44% in Newham. 30% or so is also pretty common.

Health care. Mixed feelings. NICE was established in 2000 and from people who I know of that received certain treatments there appears to be zero chance now. Comes down to funding levels really. They do provide a treatment plan for CV19 but haven't looked at it. I do know that kidney failure could have increased deaths due to shortage of equipment. Some people die several times during treatment as well. No idea how many but TV didn't seem to have much trouble finding one.

 

[ajohn]

At least more noises are being made about masks - even from the WHO. About time too really. TV reports mention that they have been used elsewhere in EU.

 

[durhamplumber]

Bojo was doing that until our numbers leapt into the lead and suddenly we are not supposed to compare numbers.

Your support provides succour to this Government to continue down its path of death.

Deaths today are 357 and it's been over 10 days since we last knew how many people are actually being tested. The track and trace service will not be fully operationsal for months.

Yet you support that. Matey you need to look at yourself.

Yet you support that. Matey you need to look at yourself.

You have no idea what I support..Stupid..And I am not your ""Matey"""..

 

[SirGalahad]

You have no idea what I support..Stupid..And I am not your ""Matey"""..

This Government for one. Matey.

 

[JohnD]

Heathrow is the sixth busiest airport in the world. Your list shows 4 eu countries above heathrow, however, Heathrow is the busiest airport in Europe.

Are you assuming that all countries have just one very big airport, and a few insignificant ones?

 

[fillyboy]

Are you assuming that all countries have just one very big airport, and a few insignificant ones?

No, are you?

 

[JohnD]

So why are you concentrating on the throughput of a single airport? And not the amount of air travel?

(and indeed other travel, remembering that unlike UK, travel between EU countries except Ireland can be achieved by road and rail)

 

[fillyboy]

So why are you concentrating on the throughput of a single airport? And not the amount of air travel?

(and indeed other travel, remembering that unlike UK, travel between EU countries except Ireland can be achieved by road and rail)

Have you not heard of ferries and the Eurotunnel?

 

[Nozzle]

Some people die several times during treatment as well.

Oh, bravo!

 

[fillyboy]

So why are you concentrating on the throughput of a single airport? And not the amount of air travel?

You really are a little bit mental aren't you.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-highest-number-of-airline-passengers.html

The UK comes on the third spot in the list. 131,449,680 people traveled through the air in 2015. The UK has always remained a center for revolutionary and transformative growth. The superb facilities provided to air passengers in the country has encouraged local people to choose flights. Traditional airports are now equipped with the latest technology and are highly modern. The vast air connectivity has strengthened business environment in the country.

 

[JohnD]

Have you not heard of ferries and the Eurotunnel?

as you say, the size of Heathrow is pretty irrelevant. I can't think why you used it.

 

[motorbiking]

Heathrow is the sixth busiest airport in the world. Your list shows 4 eu countries above heathrow, however, Heathrow is the busiest airport in Europe.

Heathrow is 2nd in the international classification.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_busiest_airports_by_international_passenger_traffic

A lot of air traffic is domestic in large countries. A lot of Airports are hubs. Both Gatwick and Heathrow were at capacity pre-covid. For many years Heathrow had the title worlds busiest international airport.

It very much looks like Covid got to the UK in December and was busy spreading among healthy people. With the benefit of hindsight we would have needed to start lockdown at least 4 weeks earlier and not allowed international travel (even people returning home). I suspect we had a lot of low symptom and no symptom spreaders infected from the imported cases in December and January. That was before it was even really a thing, outside china.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

It very much looks like Covid got to the UK in December and was busy spreading among healthy people. With the benefit of hindsight we would have needed to start lockdown at least 4 weeks earlier and not allowed international travel (even people returning home). I suspect we had a lot of low symptom and no symptom spreaders infected from the imported cases in December and January. That was before it was even really a thing, outside china.

Any evidence of that?
Or is this another of your implausible theories?

 

[motorbiking]

Quite a lot of info here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_the_United_Kingdom

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Quite a lot of info here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_the_United_Kingdom

I am well aware of articles about Covid 19.
None that I have seen make any suggestion that it arrived in UK prior to January 2020.
The article that you linked to, also says the same:

"The ongoing COVID-19 pandemic spread to the United Kingdom in late January 2020"
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Do you have any evidence that it was present in UK in December?