Transexuality

[securespark]

I would argue it is.

If you are as I described, your parents have to make a decision on how to bring you up.

You may not agree with that decision when you reach adulthood.

 

[gant]

They'll be in a similar situation to those who feel they are trapped in the wrong body. There are organisations only to happy to exploit these situations for their own financial gain, sometimes leaving the children unable to go on and reproduce in later life. A travesty of the times.

 

[JohnD]

I would argue it is.

If you are as I described, your parents have to make a decision on how to bring you up.

You may not agree with that decision when you reach adulthood.

It is like comparing people who need a prosthetic hand due to a birth deformity, with people seeking cosmetic surgery.

The one does not lend justification to the other.

 

[cwhaley]

I did say that a man can fulfill the role of a mother.
He/she can call her/him self whatever he/she wants.
We've sorted out the breast feeding problem, we bottle feed as a woman who cannot lactate does.

Oh come on... a male parent has for eons been known as a father, a female parent a mother. I bottle fed my son, but it didn't make me a mother, it made me a father doing my bit! I'd still be a father if my wife left me.

Is the use of standard English this "outdated model" you refer to? If the questions you're raising are the things the Gen Zs (or whatever they are) are putting their energy into, we're - for want of a better phrase - f*c*k*d).

 

[Roy Bloom]

No. I'd expect people to address me with the name I provide.

So if someone addresses or refers to you as she/her, when your name is Alex, you wouldn't correct them?
You would insist they use your name, not a pronoun?

"Alex went out to play with Alex's skipping rope, but Alex fell over and grazed Alex's knee. Alex's mother carefully bathed Alex's knee and put a plaster on Alex's knee. Alex's brother laughed at Alex for being a silly girl or boy. Alex cried. Alex took out Alex's hankerchief and wiped away Alex's tears."?

Pronouns might disappear in your world.

 

[motorbiking]

That’s why in English the they/them concept totally confuses people. Nobody knows if you are referring to a group or single person.

ze/hir, ze/zir at least alerts the listener to the difference.

 

[Roy Bloom]

The vast majority of men calling themselves women have not had their male genitalia removed.

How about providing some resource to support your assumption?

It's a long arduous, and humiliating experience to obtain a Gender Recognition Certificate.

"What’s wrong with the UK’s Gender Recognition Act?​

The UK’s Gender Recognition Act (GRA) is in need of reform to bring it into line with international best practice. The current process:

• does not comply with United Nations Human Rights Commission guidance
• is overly complicated and bureaucratic
• requires a wait of at least 2 years
• requires medical reports and pathologises trans identities
• depends on a panel of strangers deciding a trans person’s identity for them
• doesn’t offer legal recognition to trans people under 18
• ignores non-binary people
• requires married trans people to get permission from their spouse
• leaves people in a legal grey area"https://www.transactual.org.uk/the-gender-recognition-act

So many trans people don't bother.

Similarly, the waiting list for gender affriming surgery is a long and arduous process, taking anything between 3 to 5 years to even begin the surgery.
It's not surprising that some don't bother and are either comfortable with the bodies they have, (but not their gender) they've suffered with the body they have for all their lives so far, or they can't meet all the criteria, yet.

But you only mention trans women's gender affriming surgery, but not trans men's gender affirming surgery becaue it fits your carefully slected criteria.

"How common is gender reassignment surgery? Gender reassignment (confirmation) surgery is more common in transgender men (42 to 54%) than transgender women (28%)."

Transgender Surgery FAQs | UVA Health

Want to know your options for surgery? Find out about the gender affirmation surgeries we offer. Get answers in our transgender surgery FAQs.

uvahealth.com

From US data.



"However, the true number of transgender people is estimated to be far higher, as many do not wish to undergo painful or complex surgery, or are unable to access it.
The average age for trans women to undergo surgery is 42 and only one NHS operation has been carried out on a person under 21 in the last nine years."

NHS gender reassignment surgery rates triple

The number of gender reassignment surgeries carried yearly on the NHS has tripled since 2000, figures show. In 2000, 54 surgeries were carried out, compared with 143 in 2009.

www.thepinknews.com

In the UK accessing such surgery is far more difficult due to various reasons. Pressure on medical services being one.

 

[JohnD]

Most Trans do not have a certificate and do not have surgery

They grant themselves the luxury of pretending that saying the magic words "I am a woman" makes a man turn into a woman

 

[JP_]

So if someone addresses or refers to you as she/her, when your name is Alex, you wouldn't correct them?
You would insist they use your name, not a pronoun?

"Alex went out to play with Alex's skipping rope, but Alex fell over and grazed Alex's knee. Alex's mother carefully bathed Alex's knee and put a plaster on Alex's knee. Alex's brother laughed at Alex for being a silly girl or boy. Alex cried. Alex took out Alex's hankerchief and wiped away Alex's tears."?

Pronouns might disappear in your world.

That what-if is such an improbable scenario that I'll worry about it IF it happens. Somebody will only get it wrong if they are trolling though. Any sensible person who wanted to write about somebody like that would find out first.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Unfortunately you are unable to recognise the difference between religious faith and scientific fact.

Do you believe that uttering magic words can change one thing Into another?

Trans claims that a man can turn into a woman resemble religionists claiming that magic words can turn a biscuit into human flesh.

Yet you persist in relying on a single simple definition of a word to reaffirm your belief that a trans woman is not a woman.
Words, language is a living thing, it evolves and changes. Soemtimes it's plain wrong.
Dictionaries still uise the word "race" to define various ethnicities, but we now know and recognise there is only one "race", the human race.
Dicitonaries take a while o catch up with reality and scientific fact, but some choose to hang on to the outdated definitions to reaffirm their beliefs.

Furthermore your reliance on the reproducitve capability of being a woman is an old fashioned and misogynistic view of woanahood.

 

[Roy Bloom]

A man is not a woman.

Keep holding onto short slogans to reafirm your belief.

 

[Roy Bloom]

That already has a name, intersexual.

Try putting that on a UK birth certificate.
There is only a choice of two, and one of them is not intersex, nor non-binary, etc.

 

[JohnD]

the true number of transgender people

Using the word "true" to include men, who on one or more occasions, on one or more days, have said the words "I am a woman," but no lifestyle changes, no change in clothing, no hormone or surgical treatment.

This includes criminals who think they will get an easier time if they can get locked up in a women's prison.

 

[Roy Bloom]

And what about people born with a confusion of genitalia?

That is not one thing or the other?

They must be labeled one or the other at birth, and within two weeks in UK.
An entry of "TBD" is not a choice.

This is generally not relevant to men who decide they are women. Or vice versa.

They have a choice, but their choice may not match their label allocated at birth. That makes them trans...., in the legal sense.

 

[JohnD]

best practice.

Using the word "best" to mean "what Roy likes."