truckers.

[joe-90]

all matter is energy.

scientists need to find a way of releasing the energy from matter, then we will have this whole thing solved.

anyhow, Canada can go for about 150 years at their current rate of oil consumption and exportation.

poor joe and his o.c. ways.

Canada has oil - but it isn't extractable. It's locked into the oil shale. So come on Noseall, you tell us all how Canadian oil can fuel the world. (he won't)

 

[JohnD]

I read what Noseall wrote, even if you didn't.

 

[joe-90]

I read what Noseall wrote, even if you didn't.

I read it too but it makes no sense.

Matter is energy - but it's bonding makes it a non starter. Water (as everyone knows) is two parts hydrogen and one part oxygen. A perfect blend that if ignited gives just water as a bye-product. However, the fact that it releases energy upon ignition indicates that the energy has already been spent when it turns to water. So to break that bond and regain the energy - you have to use energy. Sadly, more energy than is available from the (then) freed hydrogen and oxygen - so we may as well not bother.

 

[blondini]

You must realise the vast difference between the energy locked in chemical bonding and that locked in matter itself Joe.

Remember what Albert said.

 

[JohnD]

I read it too but it makes no sense.

Are you telling me you read, and didn't understand "Canada can go for about 150 years at their current rate of oil consumption and exportation" ?

BTW Canada's oily mud is expensive to produce. Whether it is economic or not depends on the oil price.

Like a gold mine that costs you £100 for every ounce of gold it produces. When Gold is £99 an ounce the mine is uneconomic. When Gold is £101 an ounce it becomes economic. When Gold is £150 is becomes highly profitable. Same mine, same cost, same gold.

 

[empip]

Walter Youngquist - 1998 -
http://www.energycrisis.co.uk/youngquist/geotimes.htm

Have things moved on? Have a glance here...
http://www.geolsoc.org.uk/gsl/null/lang/en/page874.html
Near the page end -- 'Shale renaissance'. There is a whole lot of positive work going on.

Keep half an eye on the USA 'Green River' projects...

 

[Softus]

You must realise the vast difference between the energy locked in chemical bonding and that locked in matter itself Joe.

(He doesn't.)

Remember what Albert said.

(He won't.)

 

[Shytalkz]

 

[Shytalkz]

Obviously an internet hiccough...

 

[Trazor]

I think joe-90 gets his answers from a copy of The Encyclopedia britannia 1958.

 

[Softus]

The Encyclopedia britannia 1958.

Wasn't that an ocean liner?

 

[Trazor]

The Encyclopedia britannia 1958.

Wasn't that an ocean liner?

I think you are right........

Which makes me wonder how much water the liner will displace, under the weight of joe,s arguments.

 

[Softus]

Very little, if the extra load is spread across the surface of the entire web site.

 

[blondini]

We haven't mentioned coal yet. You can make gas and liquid fuels from coal, you can even make plastics The fuel that launched the industrial revolution never went away and there's absolutely loads of it.

 

[blondini]

Wasn't the liner fueled by coal?