truckers.

[joe-90]

Give me an example that isn't ridiculous then.

 

[securespark]

Let me turn this around to you, joe: open your eyes and tell me what other alternative fuels or sources of fuel are being investigated or are available already (he won't).

You can use the internet if you need to, don't worry.

 

[Softus]

If I walked across some hot coals, what would be size of my carbon footprint?

 

[joe-90]

Let me turn this around to you, joe: open your eyes and tell me what other alternative fuels or sources of fuel are being investigated or are available already (he won't).

You can use the internet if you need to, don't worry.

There are many - but so far, none of them viable. Oil is free energy - nothing else compares. If it did - we'd already be using it. The fact that we aren't is proof positive that there isn't anything. If you think that there is - then you show me.

 

[tim west]

In a months time there may be the answer to the planets need for unlimited free energy? Dark Matter

 

[joe-90]

Why in a month? Dark matter was created along with the rest of the universe. I guess someone's looking for a research grant eh?

 

[tim west]

Why in a month? Dark matter was created along with the rest of the universe. I guess someone's looking for a research grant eh?

Thats the big switch on at Cern.

 

[joe-90]

Why in a month? Dark matter was created along with the rest of the universe. I guess someone's looking for a research grant eh?

Thats the big switch on at Cern.

The big turn on is a government grant.

 

[sooey]

Why in a month? Dark matter was created along with the rest of the universe. I guess someone's looking for a research grant eh?

Thats the big switch on at Cern.

Maybe that will be the big switch off for all of us, if they somehow create a black hole.

 

[Softus]

Maybe that will be the big switch off for all of us, if they somehow create a black hole.

I think you've been reading too many comic books.

Current scientific theory supports the idea of black holes being frequenly created all around us, but that are tiny and thereby exist for merely a fraction of a second. This is what CERN is aiming to replicate, but in laboratory conditions.

 

[sooey]

Maybe that will be the big switch off for all of us, if they somehow create a black hole.

I think you've been reading too many comic books.

Current scientific theory supports the idea of black holes being frequenly created all around us, but that are tiny and thereby exist for merely a fraction of a second. This is what CERN is aiming to replicate, but in laboratory conditions.

It was only a whimsical notion, and I'm not too bothered about this personally, but here's one way of looking at it.
I'm all for scientific research, and don't read comics, but given that a singularity is a place where all scientific theories break down completely, don't you think it's a tad risky to try and create one here on Earth? For instance, at what size would one become self sustaining? I don't think that we have enough energy available to make one big enough, but I don't see how the scientists can be sure, seeing as they don't really know what they are dealing with.

 

[Softus]

I'm all for scientific research, and don't read comics, but given that a singularity is a place where all scientific theories break down completely, don't you think it's a tad risky to try and create one here on Earth?

No. You still seem to be presuming that it will be the first, or the biggest, or the longest-lasting. But it will have none of those attributes.

For instance, at what size would one become self sustaining?

Er, some size that's bigger than can be created at CERN with the energy and technology currently available.

I don't think that we have enough energy available to make one big enough, but I don't see how the scientists can be sure, seeing as they don't really know what they are dealing with.

There's no glory in creating a black hole that instantly swallows the creator, and everything else on the planet, and the planet itself, so I have faith that the team involved is having its calculations thoroughly checked over by more than a couple of blokes down the pub.

If this web site suddenly disappears, we'll know that they got it wrong. Or maybe we won't know.

 

[sooey]

No. You still seem to be presuming that it will be the first, or the biggest, or the longest-lasting. But it will have none of those attributes.

I wasn't presuming anything, except that it's dangerous to play around with things you don't understand.

There's no glory in creating a black hole that instantly swallows the creator and everything else on the planet, and the planet itself, so I have faith that the team involved is having their calculations thoroughly checked over by more than a couple of blokes down the pub.

Oh well, that's all right then.

I'm just putting the other side of the argument for the sake of debate, but it's postulated that the actual laws of physics break down in these things, and nobody understands what goes on in them or why. In view of the fact that in the incredibly unlikely (perhaps) event of one being created, that would be it for planet Earth (It might take donkeys years, but we'd all have to hit the lifeboats), maybe there should have been a bit more of a debate before the big switch on.

 

[Softus]

I wasn't presuming anything, except that it's dangerous to play around with things you don't understand.

Please state who you believe is "playing around".

There's no glory in creating a black hole that instantly swallows the creator and everything else on the planet, and the planet itself, so I have faith that the team involved is having their calculations thoroughly checked over by more than a couple of blokes down the pub.

Oh well, that's all right then.

You're being either sarcastic, or just whimsical again. I don't see how being either of those is going to further the debate that you say you want to have.

I'm just putting the other side of the argument for the sake of debate, but it's postulated that the actual laws of physics break down in these things, and nobody understands what goes on in them or why.

Yes, but that's the whole point of the experiment - to better the understanding.

And I think you underestimate how many of the jigsaw puzzle pieces have already been found. Hawking Radiation, for example, has helped the understanding of, and observation of, the different 'sizes' of black holes, whilst at the same time creating a new question.

In view of the fact that in the incredibly unlikely (perhaps) event of one being created...

I don't know why you think it's unlikely. My personal view is that it's incredibly likely that they will succeed.

...that would be it for planet Earth...

I don't know why you equate a tiny black whole with Armageddon. I think you're making a mounting out of a wormhole.

(It might take donkeys years, but we'd all have to hit the lifeboats), maybe there should have been a bit more of a debate before the big switch on.

I don't know what you're referring to when you use the words "big switch on". It doesn't describe anything I've read about, so perhaps you could explain some more about that.

 

[wobs]

Canada has oil - but it isn't extractable. It's locked into the oil shale. So come on Noseall, you tell us all how Canadian oil can fuel the world. (he won't)

So why is Canada the biggest source of oil imports into the US?
http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/...ons/company_level_imports/current/import.html