Trump Re Ukraine

[IT Minion]

Given how pathetic the quality of Russian troops were Poland could probably have stood up against the invasion Russia launched. Finland would obliterate them.

 

[denso13]

We need to get ourselves in the game.

We'll never be in the US or Russian league. We don't need to be.

People moan about pensioners losing £4 a week. Do you think they'd be happy for a big increase in tax to cover defence spending? No chance.

 

[denso13]

They expect Zelensky to take a deal. If it does, as in Zelensky does summin else, and war is escalated,

Trump is backing Russia, Zelensky has no where to go without America's backing. That's the sad truth about it.

 

[Notch7]

The US has to make Putin a frenemy in my mind because the bloke cannot be handled in any other way.

eh?

Trump is falsely blaming Zelensky for starting the war
Trump is falsely accusing Zelensky of being a dictator
Trump is falsely accusing Zelensky of extending the war

Trump is treating Putin as an ally not a "frenemy"


lets not forget Putin has meddled in USA elections to Trumps benefit

 

[Notch7]

Yip. I spoke about how our military has been run down under both previous Con and Lab administrations. Ukraine is squeezed into a corner, they clearly don't foresee full scale war occurring imminently. They expect Zelensky to take a deal. If it does, as in Zelensky does summin else, and war is escalated, National Service will be brought in at a moments notice I suspect.

Trump is the one escalating the conflict by effectively surrendering to Putin before negotiations even begin

you really are a twisted individual

 

[Sunshine32]

Irrelevant when handing out mineral rights. Trump should be told to do one.

Do you think you have a grasp on geopolitics and war?

 

[denso13]

Do you think you have a grasp on geopolitics and war?

Much more than Trump has.

 

[MNW67]

Do you think you have a grasp on geopolitics and war?

I would never claim that. But I have some understanding of fairness and decency. Do you think an ally should be treated more harshly than Germany was at Versailles. Do you think an ally should have to repay five times the amount they borrowed. Because, according to the Telegraph, that is the deal which Zelensky was asked to sign.

 

[Sunshine32]

I would never claim that. But I have some understanding of fairness and decency. Do you think an ally should be treated more harshly than Germany was at Versailles. Do you think an ally should have to repay five times the amount they borrowed. Because, according to the Telegraph, that is the deal which Zelensky was asked to sign.

I wasn't talking to you.

 

[denso13]

I would never claim that. But I have some understanding of fairness and decency. Do you think an ally should be treated more harshly than Germany was at Versailles. Do you think an ally should have to repay five times the amount they borrowed. Because, according to the Telegraph, that is the deal which Zelensky was asked to sign.

Trump's method of "negotiating" in public is disgraceful. He has no sense of right or wrong and just says the first thing that comes into his mind. It's a shocking way to treat Zelensky and the Ukrainian people..

 

[MNW67]

We need to get ourselves in the game. Ex top military guy on QT last night said UK, over past 30 years (so under both political parties), has depleted our defences and spent the cash elsewhere.

Now we, and EU countries, have been caught napping and we'll have to play catch up and quick.

Meanwhile, we have Starmer et al. saying 'we're committed to looking at an increase to 2.5%' or whatever. When? After how many years? Will there be a task force set up to look at this? Delivering a report in 2030 about whether or not 2.5% is achievable?

Joke, complete joke.

Is 2.5% enough. That's only £5 billion more than we are spending already. During the Cold War we spent 4%. Poland is spending almost 4%.

If Germany, France and the UK all spent 2.5% that might be enough. But Germany really don't seem up for it. Maybe that will change after the election.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Either Zelensky takes the deal or the war is escalated.

If he doesn't agree and Russia walk all over Ukraine guess who gets the minerals.

Zelensky should tell Trump he's giving into Russia and no minerals to usa

 

[diy_fun_uk]

Is 2.5% enough. That's only £5 billion more than we are spending already. During the Cold War we spent 4%. Poland is spending almost 4%.

If Germany, France and the UK all spent 2.5% that might be enough. But Germany really don't seem up for it. Maybe that will change after the election.

No it's not. I was in part being sarcastic on the % front. We should be upping it to at least 3% and whatever that means re increased tax take, so be it. The potential consequences of leaving ourselves exposed in years/decades to come don't bear thinking about.

GET SPENDING!!!

 

[transam]

Perhaps zelenski (?)

Could go on a trip to China ???

Put the rumour out that it is ref a mineral deal ?????

Trump would go even more nuts ???

 

[carmanmemoranda]

There is nothing that anyone can do. I just don’t see all of the fuss being made. Trump is in power and that’s it. Just let him get on with it because it cannot be changed now.

Chamberlain !

How Europe acts or reacts to him can change some things I support us and Europe and ukraine standing up to him

I'm not sure why so many people are relaxed about the megalomaniac . Russia will win versus trump . Looks like they are doing all ready.

China must be rubbing it's hands together.