Ukraine counter offensive

Plan is to launch tank ground attack missions to force infantry out and draw in Russina airpower, and hit russian air forces with sams?
The Western tanks are needed to take out the Russian ones that'll be rolling Futher into Ukraine in the spring offensive.

Apart from the US, getting the tanks to Ukraine isn't the slow bit. It's training the crews. If we haven't already brought a regiment of Ukrainian tankers over I'd be amazed. If we're training from scratch that takes at least three months. If we're training experienced tank crews in new kit and new roles then it should take less time, but it isn't quick.

Russian airpower isn't being used aggressively, it's the dog that didn't bark in this war.
 
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Russian airpower isn't being used aggressively, it's the dog that didn't bark in this war.

They haven't got enough competent experienced young pilots.

Some of the old duffers they brought out of retirement have got a bit doddery, and crash.

None of them are used to fighting in a war where the opposition can shoot back.
 
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has requested 300 tanks to help push back Russia’s invasion forces. Moscow said Western-supplied tanks will “burn” and dismissed suggestions they will impact the outcome of the nearly yearlong conflict.

The government said its goal was for Germany and its allies to provide Ukraine with a total of two battalions, or 88 tanks overall.

The Leopards, fielded by some 20 armies around the world, are seen as the best option for Ukraine because they are readily available in large numbers and less complex mechanically than other alternatives, such as the M1 Abrams, allowing for quicker training for Ukrainian forces.
There are about 2,000 Leopard 2s currently spread across Europe at different levels of readiness, according to the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS), a British think-tank.

The Abrams tank is considered less suitable for the conflict in Ukraine than the German-made Leopard 2 model because of its heavy fuel consumption and turbine engine, which is highly sophisticated and difficult to maintain.
(apparently they run on jet fuel and will have to be adapted for combat)

It was not immediately clear how many tanks Finland, which shares a border with Russia, planned to supply Ukraine with. Savola said his country’s contribution would be limited in scope due to concerns over its own defences.

“Norway and the government support the donation of battle tanks to Ukraine. Norway will take part,” Defence Minister Bjorn Arild Gram said in an interview with Norwegian public television NRK, without stating how many would be sent.

Spain’s defence minister said her country was open to providing Ukraine with Leopard 2 tanks from its own stocks. She made no comment on the possible number of tanks Spain may provide.

Prime Minister Mark Rutte said the Netherlands was prepared to deliver battle tanks to Ukraine if needed. Rutte said the Netherlands could opt to buy tanks it currently leases from Germany, and supply those to Ukraine.

@AlJazz

Although only a third of the number of tanks requested by Ukraine are being sent, equivalent to two British regiments, they'll have a decisive influence wherever they're deployed on the battlefield. Ukrainian troops have been in Germany for several months, receiving training on using and maintaining the Leopards and the U.S will send support crews to help with the Abrams complicated systems.
 
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Russian airpower isn't being used aggressively, it's the dog that didn't bark in this war.
According to UK military the earlier big bangs were all low level bomb runs. they appeared to use them to break a lot of glass leaving a big pit. Since then odd bits of TV have shown them going somewhere for who know what. Also shown footage of helicopters attacking positions but the beeb didn't state where it came from. May be something a Russian mil blogger posted.
 
Ukraine has received another salvo. Usual targets. Debate if due to tanks or just a continuation.

Germany stated tanks there by the end of march. It seems some think too late. They don't. Russia shows an old style video game with 2 groups of tanks. You can guess which side gets hit along with comments about German tanks.

USA tanks, seems they will take 12 months. Odd really as they have loads.

Fact is that Ukraine is slowly loosing in the east. That is being reported a bit now.

Wagner man has noticed a business opportunity. Not directly related to Ukraine. Why run an army when you can hire me. Some months ago an African country may have been interested. The USA and others wont be very happy about that even if they fight correctly. War crimes really are a feature of any war who ever is fighting them.
 
Israel’s refusal to assist the Ukraine has and is causing alarm / concern to its US allies
 
Israel’s refusal to assist the Ukraine has and is causing alarm / concern to its US allies
Israel under it's latest ultra right wing government is too busy provoking a new intifada!
 
Israel under it's latest ultra right wing government is too busy provoking a new intifada!

They never supplied as much as a bullet under the last regime

Last week the US stated it would take back 300000 155mm artillery shells from a weapons stockpile in Israel and transafer them to the Ukraine
 
They never supplied as much as a bullet under the last regime

Last week the US stated it would take back 300000 155mm artillery shells from a weapons stockpile in Israel and transafer them to the Ukraine

A clearly unhappy (?) Israeli military said they were USA property

The US have also asked Israel to transfer mothballed US missile defence systems to the Ukraine

Israel has yet to respond ?
 
No it didnt

Oligarch money created almost no wealth for ordinary fold in Britain

I dont call Conservative MPs, hedge fund managers, professional money launderers "ordinary people"
Plenty of Oligarchs and corruption in Ukraine, the Yanks are sending in the auditors to find out where all their money is disappearing to.
 
Russians claim that the supply of tanks is a blatant provocation by the west

A significant number of Germans agree with the Russians and blame the west / Nato / EU for the Russian invasion

Probably all the X stasi informants and Russian collaborators from what was ounce east Germany

Germans are the loose cannon in the Nato alliance and should not and cannot be trusted imo

German politics / government is probably littered with those spying for the Russians
When the Russians left East Germany they deliberately left behind a network of spies.
The whole German state is infiltrated from top to bottom by Russian spies.
The network was built up over a period of 40 years.
 
When the Russians left East Germany they deliberately left behind a network of spies.
The whole German state is infiltrated from top to bottom by Russian spies.
The network was built up over a period of 40 years.

Yep exactly
 
Plenty of Oligarchs and corruption in Ukraine, the Yanks are sending in the auditors to find out where all their money is disappearing to.

Ukraine is ( was) one of the most corrupt countries in Europe

Probably top of the list ??

This war has enabled those corrupt officials to syphon off millions of dollars
 
Ukraine is ( was) one of the most corrupt countries in Europe

One of the terrible results of generations of domination by Russians.

There is hope that they are now escaping and able to aspire to better.
 
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