Ukraine counter offensive

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Can the usual ****posting be taken somewhere else or do we need to reboot the thread again?

Well take it up with old duffer
He started it

In any event Putin is having a ceremony tomorrow celebrating the fact that the referendum was a success and welcoming the new republics into the Russian federation

Ukraine and nato are now on notice that any attacks on these regions will be an attack on mother Russia
 
A quora post. Hope you can see it. Pictures in the post by Misha Firer, 3 down from the top, are worth a look even if it's propaganda, The post below on the sinking of the Moskva may be bs - or not.

 
Well come the end of the day
The west could be in un chartered waters

As Putin will consider and has stated that any attacks on occupied areas will be an attack on Russia
 
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As Putin will consider and has stated that any attacks on occupied areas will be an attack on Russia

In the same way that attacks and invasion of Ukraine are attacks and invasion of Ukraine, perhaps
 
Well come the end of the day
The west could be in un chartered waters

As Putin will consider and has stated that any attacks on occupied areas will be an attack on Russia
It's political aspect. Putin can say he has met his objectives. He can then choose to hold or expand further. Actually he has captured more than his stated objectives for better access to Crimea which is largely what it is all about in some ways anyway. Then comes what was agreed in the Minsk agreement that Ukraine wont accept. As they put it once - had to agree because we had a gun to our heads.

Escalations - have to wait and see as now the attacks will be on Russia as far as they are concerned. That wont end fighting,

Seems some people they are calling up or joining their army are not what he wants. He recently said those with combat experience first. That came out yesterday. One large scale antiwar demo has been shown - it has ethnic aspects and the people concerned think there are too many of them being called up.
 
Air strikes are stepping up in Zaporizhzhia ;) hope I spelled that correctly. Indications that Russia is using up some really old stock. Still makes bangs though, One strike 25 dead and 75 injured, some critical.
 
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(3) CONDITION.—Any loan or lease of defense articles to the Government of Ukraine under paragraph (1) shall be subject to all applicable laws concerning the return of and reimbursement and repayment for defense articles loan or leased to foreign governments.

You can probably find the actual act but I assume the above is accurate.
 
It’s a very worrying escalation, as Ukraine seems to be gaining ground. Russia will now claim Ukrainian troops are the invaders.
 
It’s a very worrying escalation, as Ukraine seems to be gaining ground. Russia will now claim Ukrainian troops are the invaders.
So what as far a fighting goes.

It is, but it is just a means to fast track support for Ukraine.
Not exactly. The stuff has to be paid for at some point. The EU talked about loans rather than gifts. Germany said no as they couldn't afford to pay it back.
The question is really are the USA using lend lease or gifts with the latest $1b.
 
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