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By the end of November, nightly pictures of destruction and dead civilians, especially children, brought a change of attitude in world opinion which has been reflected in the UN votes for a ceasefire.
A problem for Israel - it's getting out despite attempt to block it. Internet off etc.

UK and USA - take Iraq. Huge numbers in the collateral damage area and nothing came out. Plenty of damage as well. An Israeli politician mentioned a couple more. This area is purely a military decision made on the spot at the time a decision needs to made. Rules of war ?????????

However thinking a militant is there and taking out houses is probably pushing the point too far also using dumb bombs. People were targetted in Iraq and this didn't achieve anything. Civilians -tough luck. Also numbers of people who have just been shot by the IDF are rising also captives are being treated in an extreme way without being sure they are militants, Various videos that Israel have issued in this area are a bit odd when examined closely eg same scene and different time on a watch. A left handed and later right handed man carrying a gun. The whole lot may just be a set ups and might be made by either side. Seems to be Israel though.

Some western journalists have pointed out that they aren't allowed to go in and wonder around to check various aspects. Since Vietnam no country will be very keen on that when at war. It's better for people in general to be unaware.
 
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Yes. I don't for one minute think they knew they were killing Jewish hostages. There is no reason for that at all.
Watched a report on the killings and one of the hostages ran into a building to escape the gunfire. Wounded, he came back out to plead with the soldiers he was one of the hostages and needed help. They shot him again. Just to be safe. Did they mean it?


Yes.
 
The tensions spilling over from the war in Gaza to merchant shipping in the Red Sea escalated on Saturday when Britain and the United States said their militaries had shot down more than a dozen attack drones.

In recent days, the unrest in the region has led three major shipping companies, Hapag-Lloyd, Maersk, and Mediterranean Shipping, to temporarily stop sending vessels through the Red Sea, threatening to add costly weeks to the journey of any goods carried on their vessels.

New York Times.com

The cost of insurance for shipping has increased by 300% in the least few weeks, so if you're set of spanners from China goes up in the new year, now you know.
 
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Watched a report on the killings and one of the hostages ran into a building to escape the gunfire. Wounded, he came back out to plead with the soldiers he was one of the hostages and needed help. They shot him again. Just to be safe. Did they mean it?


Yes.

Hamas do have form for pretending to be Israelis, they put it to good use on October 7th.
 
Hamas do have form for pretending to be Israelis, they put it to good use on October 7th.
Which has no bearing on an Israeli unit at best executing surrendered enemy soldiers, more likely Palestinian non-combatants and in reality hostages they were sent to rescue.

Any of those actions would be a war crime.

Although it is worth mentioning here that Israel considers any males between 18-64 years old an enemy combatant if they are killed.
 
Afaik Israeli soldiers shot a couple of there own people ( hostages) on that raid on Entebbe rescue mission ????
 
The Jews were there before the Muslims Roy.
Judaism predates Islam but the Semitic peoples of Palestine predate both Judaism and Islamic religions.
The ancient kingdom of Israel was created in much the same way as the modern state of Israel was created.
The ancient Israelites believed that God had commanded them to expel the indigenous population and take their land.


According to the bible the jews were not indigenous to the Palestine region.
The Patriarch Abraham was from Iraq.
According to Jewish tradition, Abraham was the son of an Idol manufacturer in the land of Ur in Iraq, one day, Abraham heard a voice in his head telling him to smash up all the Idols in his fathers shop.
When his father found out what he had done, he threw him out, Abraham then went on to found a cult which became Judiasm.
 
Which has no bearing on an Israeli unit at best executing surrendered enemy soldiers, more likely Palestinian non-combatants and in reality hostages they were sent to rescue.

Any of those actions would be a war crime.

Although it is worth mentioning here that Israel considers any males between 18-64 years old an enemy combatant if they are killed.
It isn't just males who are being targeted.
Mother and daughter shot dead in Christian church by Israeli sniper.
 
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