Unusual wedding

JulieL said:
I could write a book about so called heterosexuals sexual practices - which *on the whole* are more 'deviant' than sexual activities undertaken by homosexuals.

Don't you mean "On the hole"?

By the way, when you write that book can I have a copy?



joe
 
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PE said:
joe-90 said:
PE said:
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If its in a controlled environment it is hardly natural is it?
Homosexuality is a personal preference it is however not and never will be the "norm". Whilst that remains so there will always be a number of perfectly regular people who do not and cannot understand or accept it as normal behaviour.
Saying all that I would also say I would not agree with anyone persecuting someone because of their life choices. My children will be given the facts so they grow up as rounded individuals not bigots - they will however not be taught by me that homosexuality is "normal" behaviour just that it exists and has a place in the world


If your children are programmed to be gay - then that's what they'll be. Your opinion won't come into it


joe

Never said it would (despite your ridiculous choice of phrase) - just said they would be given the facts. If they are happy well rounded individuals then I will be happy with that whatever they choose elsewhere in their life. Do you have children Joe?

Just won't ever accept its normal behaviour that will always be my own opinion

Very well put.
 
dg123 said:
Why have 'Gay Pride' rallies, we don't have straight rallies.?

I think they have these rallies to show they are normal people like you and me. Gays have been ostracised and persecuted for hundreds of years and if they were to show that they were afraid or ashamed I'm sure that would continue. I think that if the issue of homosexuality is shoved in the face of society often enough then it will gradually become 'normalised' (in the view of those who don't already consider it so) and will cease to be an issue.

why does there have to be a fanfare about it?

Because they have finally achieved the chance to have the same rights and recognition as other married couples, which I'm sure is quite a big deal for a lot of people.
 
petewood said:
the issue of homosexuality is shoved in the face of society often enough which I'm sure is quite a big deal for a lot of people.
 
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I would prefer my kids not to be gay but only because I wouldnt like them to have to put up with all the homophobic stuff, I dont want them to be ordinary but to have a happy stress free life.
and its great having grandkids.

Gay? that used to be a happy word :LOL: only joking.
 
dg123 said:
petewood said:
the issue of homosexuality is shoved in the face of society often enough which I'm sure is quite a big deal for a lot of people.

I didn't say that, but it sounds like it's a big deal for you. :D
 
PE: Ah - now I see, homosexuality is a choice. I never realised that before. I feel so enlightened.

So I, as a usually adult heterosexual male human, like to engage in sexual activities with adult female humans. I've never enagaged in any homosexual activity, no matter what age I have been (unlike a lot of my friends, it seems). It's a choice, not the way I was born. Ah. If my choice isn't there, maybe I will engage in sexual activities with adult male humans.

And all environments are controlled to some extent, no matter who or what is in them.
 
notb665 said:
PE: Ah - now I see, homosexuality is a choice. I never realised that before. I feel so enlightened.

So I, as a usually adult heterosexual male human, like to engage in sexual activities with adult female humans. I've never enagaged in any homosexual activity, no matter what age I have been (unlike a lot of my friends, it seems). It's a choice, not the way I was born. Ah. If my choice isn't there, maybe I will engage in sexual activities with adult male humans.

And all environments are controlled to some extent, no matter who or what is in them.

Never said it was a choice - I am enlightened enough to realise you are who you are.

What I said if you had read the text was that I would hope my children will have enough facts to make their own life choices in general

Also I believe you mentioned about putting animals in a controlled environment originally - I merely pointed out that is not " natural" then is it?

We'll agree to disagree (or I will anyway)
 
joe-90 said:
notb665 said:
So I, as a usually adult heterosexual male human,

Usually? Like in 'most of the time'?

joe

Yeah, despite being married, most other times I am celibate. :D or maybe that should be :cry:
 
PE said:
What I said if you had read the text was that I would hope my children will have enough facts to make their own life choices in general

So what qualifies as a choice? Their sexuality? You said it was a personal preference. It isn't. Your skin colour isn't a personal preference, your eye colour, the height you are. Nor is your sexuality.

PE said:
Also I believe you mentioned about putting animals in a controlled environment originally - I merely pointed out that is not " natural" then is it?

I don't understand this comment. "A controlled environment" is a biologist's term for an environment. It means "all environments are controlled by something, and in this statement or argument you should consider this fact".
 
notb665 said:
....... If we place animals in a controlled environment and restrict the basics of life (air, water, food, space, mates etc) why is it some exhibit homosexual behaviour?......

So this makes it natural then does it? People or animals will behave however trained to a certain extent if you make the environment so and dictate certain basics of life as you put it.

Very easy to quote a definition to suit

Bottom line is I will never think that homosexuality is natural or normal behaviour

Finally I apologise - I did state homosexuality is a personal preference which I clearly do not believe and have no idea why I typed that
 
notb665 said:
Do you think people are born with their sexuality?

Partially although I think people will only eventually know once they have all life's information to hand i.e lived a bit.

I do not believe people elect to be straight or gay I think they just know from being who they are and following their feelings
 
So you are saying some people's feelings are unnatural?
 
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