Vegetarianism

[ajstoneservices]

I am a meat eater because I like it and the animals i've eaten have been pre-packaged from cute and cuddly, into food.

I doubt I would eat meat if forced to kill it unless it was a case of kill it or starve, when self preservation would, I'm sure, kick in.

Many of us must be thankful we do not have to kill what we eat. that we do not have to process an animal into food. Someone else does it for us and we can remain detached as far as is possible from the meat production business. I know it is hypocritical but it works for me.

 

[crockett]

If you want to eat all processed food, go for it. If you like to eat just vegetables and no meat products, then good for you. I like meat, vegetables, processed food, pretty much everything in moderation. I exercise, my job keeps me fairly active, and I recently gave up smoking.

People who say that this or that is either good or bad for you may well be right. But eat, drink and be merry I say. If it floats your boat then do it. Your body will soon tell you if you over indulge, be it through diabetes, heart disease, brittle bones, obesity, or whatever.

 

[Blasphemous]

Thanks Blas that's a very generous slice.

I would have given more but I'm greedy!

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

you're more likely to be fat if you eat meat.

I understand Gillian Taylforth likes a lot of meat, but shes hardly Geoff Capes

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

But eat, drink and be merry I say. If it floats your boat then do it.

That's reassuring

Your body will soon tell you if you over indulge, be it through diabetes, heart disease, brittle bones, obesity, or whatever.

I feel better already

 

[Blasphemous]

If you want to eat all processed food, go for it. If you like to eat just vegetables and no meat products, then good for you. I like meat, vegetables, processed food, pretty much everything in moderation. I exercise, my job keeps me fairly active, and I recently gave up smoking.

People who say that this or that is either good or bad for you may well be right. But eat, drink and be merry I say. If it floats your boat then do it. Your body will soon tell you if you over indulge, be it through diabetes, heart disease, brittle bones, obesity, or whatever.

I like the cut of your jib Sir. I especially like a cut of fillet or Sirloin.

 

[dexthird]

Last "diet" but one that I undertook was as a corollary to reading Allen Carr's easyway to quit smoking, which worked a treat (no cigs for about 3 years 'til I sam my old fella at the morgue; but that's another story ).

I went on to read his Easyway to lose weight - made sense. He based his view on "you've never seen a fat squirrel" and extrapolated the argument that one should eat fresh fruit, nuts, pulses, seeds, veg etc, ideally raw if possible. He also advocated avoiding meat and cow's milk (and it's related products). Finally, he advocated drinking water and try to avoid diuretics such as caffeine.

I was working away from home then and pretty much kept to it. I lost about 3 stone and never felt hungry nor better physically in my life. When I came back to Manchester and reverted to my old ways, the weight went back on soon enough, and I'm off to hospital on wednesday for an exploratory gastroscopy due to difficulty swallowing amongst other things which have developed over the last year or so.

Makes you think

 

[ColJack]

Also, and I may well be completely wrong, it seems that proportionally speaking, you're more likely to be fat if you eat meat.

I haven't seen many fat tigers.

Tigers have to chase their meals. Keeps them trim.

Ah that'll be it!

Right, make fat people run for their dinner. I'm on to a winner here. Royalties of 25% to slick.

brilliant idea.. a treadmill wired to the fridge door.. can't open it until you've done a mile..

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

Did he say anything about climbing up and living in trees?

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

a treadmill wired to the fridge door.. can't open it until you've done a mile..

You need to burn up 3500 cals, to lose a pound in weight, a steady mile walk will burn up about 65 cals, so that means to lose one pound you need to walk 54 miles. Bl00dy long way to go for a cheese and pickle sandwich

 

[ColJack]

you loose weight if you burn more calories than you eat.. no one said it has to be 3500 calories in one go..
if you had to walk a mile before you could get that donut out of the fridge you probably wouldn't bother..

 

[ajstoneservices]

a treadmill wired to the fridge door.. can't open it until you've done a mile..

You need to burn up 3500 cals, to lose a pound in weight, a steady mile walk will burn up about 65 cals, so that means to lose one pound you need to walk 54 miles. Bl00dy long way to go for a cheese and pickle sandwich

so that's 28 x 54 I'll take the car

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

I've just walked 54 miles for cheese and pickle butty, sure i'd walk a mile for a jammy doughnut

 

[dexthird]

Did he say anything about claiming up and living in trees?

Nuts

His argument was that when you look at the dietary habits across other species, we do some very strange things to make things edible or even palatable. For example (assuming no other health issues involved), would you eat raw meat? He also pointed out that by cooking meat by roasting for example, we ae in effect drying it out and removing the water content; which is a somewhat stupid thing to do as we actually need the water content to help us digest it. He also points out that we tend to partially hide or enhance the flavour of meat with fruits and vegetables or herbs (cranberry sauce, radish sauce, tomato etc etc), in which case, he argues, maybe we don't actually like the taste of meat at all.

Following this through to a logical conclusion, since we avoid eating things that don't taste nice (he compares this to the body naturally avoiding toxins by the fact that things that are bad for us taste bad), we should avoid any meat that requires this sort of processing. He also advocates avoiding any processed food whenever possible for the same reason.

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

I try to avoid all processed food, as I am not a great liker of salt and have had BP problems in the past.
I can see the sense in some of the assumption made, but we have been given a skill to make food taste better than it actually is, where the likes of a squirrels can't.
A lot of food in it's untreated and raw form, would be bland and rather unappealing.