What You'll Get...

[gant]

Somebody say something? No can't hear owt.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Somebody say something? No can't hear owt.

again see. You only read what you want to. Confirmation bias

 

[Notch7]

those not green round the gills know that's not the case with everybody in the boats

Please define “not everybody”

Those of us not green around the gills understand that evidence, data, facts, details, nuance is what counts.

Those of us green around around the gills are easily duped by right wing govts and it’s client media.

People like Andy are easily brainwashed into believing the problems are all caused by foreigners, not 12 years of Conservative failure.

 

[gant]

again see. You only read what you want to. Confirmation bias

No still can't make it out, might have a bit of sh*t in me ear, I'll go and get me a cotton bud.

 

[gant]

Please define “not everybody”

Those of us not green around the gills understand that evidence, data, facts, details, nuance is what counts.

Those of us green around around the gills are easily duped by right wing govts and it’s client media.

People like Andy are easily brainwashed into believing the problems are all caused by foreigners, not 12 years of Conservative failure.

Not sure your looking for an answer off me.
Think Andy's more than capable of speaking for himself.

 

[Notch7]

Not sure your looking for an answer off me.

Yes I am, you made the claim.

You said "You don't have to notch, those not green round the gills know that's not the case with everybody in the boats"

So what percentage are you basing your claim on?

 

[Pat ex]

It beats prefixing a sentence with the ultra-ambiguous 'reports say'.

Apparently there has been an increasing number

Don't forget that other ultra-ambiguous "apparently"

 

[Pat ex]

Yes, before they shoot us. Apparently there has been an increasing number of violent young Albanian males coming over on the boats and these are causing trouble at the holding centre, so much so that even the sopping-wet liberal Border Forces union has written a letter to the Home Secretary about it.

Surge in criminal migrants poses ‘significant risk’ to national security

Border Force union warns of ‘substantial’ change in profile of migrants to ‘young, fit males’ with suspected links to organised crime groups

www.telegraph.co.uk

Just picking up on your first link, andy11, to show how uselessly bigoted your information is. The article says

Border Force union warns of ‘substantial’ change in profile of migrants to ‘young, fit males’ with suspected links to organised crime groups
The surge in criminal migrants poses a “significant risk” to national security, the Border Force union has warned the Home Secretary.

From your link.
You see how the suspicion jumps within one sentence to the assumption of a surge in criminality. That's perverted bigoted journalism which you lap up like a hungry dog.

One man's racist is another man's concerned taxpayer.

You're just a racist who wants to shoot asylum seekers on sight. Please don't try to excuse your shocking ideology as some sort of protection force.

 

[gant]

Yes I am, you made the claim.

You said "You don't have to notch, those not green round the gills know that's not the case with everybody in the boats"

So what percentage are you basing your claim on?

Well if you have people who have their asylum claims rejected it er kinda stands to reason that some are only risking a boat trip on a water that isn't all it's cracked up to be danger wise...... because they're economic migrants. If you throw Albanians into the mix (their 'plight' described in the thread)
What part of that is hard to understand?

 

[Pat ex]

This government has done nothing to stop illegal immigration and in fact its policies have tacitly encouraged it. When Labour get in, which is inevitable, it will actively encourage illegal immigration and the ratchet effect of the communist takeover of Britain will wind up several more notches.

No government has ever encouraged illegal immigration.
You're so pent up with your racist ideology, you're not thinking straight.

the 2015 GE showed that the majority of the electorate is conservative.

Absolute nonsense:

List of United Kingdom general elections - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Only just over a third of the electorate were Conservative in the 2015 election.
We have never had, since WW2, a majority Conservative at GE, The figures for 2010 included the LibDems.

1. Includes the vote share of both the Conservatives (36.1%) and Liberal Democrats (23%).

That's two of your so called claims debunked.

 

[Pat ex]

See Andy's provided a few links one from the telegraph that chimes with what I said about being tooled up,

Debunked. A bigoted article in the Telegraph, jumping for a suspicion to an assertion is no more believable than your claim.

 

[Pat ex]

oh look, classic whataboutery

Well there are a lot of squirrels about.

 

[Pat ex]

"The woods are full of 'em."

Squirrels?

 

[Pat ex]

Scaremongering only helps the right wingers cling to power. Just because of fear not facts.

Precisely, exploiting any event to promote their political ideology.

 

[Notch7]

What part of that is hard to understand?

It is very easy to understand:

thank you for admitting you have no evidence.