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[Pat ex]

again see. You only read what you want to. Confirmation bias

Fingers in ears, classic tactic of refusing to engage in intelligent debate.

 

[gant]

It is very easy to understand:

thank you for admitting you have no evidence.

If it's broadcast on our media outlets that not everyone of them has their asylum claim accepted what are we to surmise.?
I've got a ceiling too emulsion but I can hang on two minutes.

 

[festive]

Just picking up on your first link, andy11, to show how uselessly bigoted your information is. The article says

From your link.
You see how the suspicion jumps within one sentence to the assumption of a surge in criminality. That's perverted bigoted journalism which you lap up like a hungry dog.



You're just a racist who wants to shoot asylum seekers on sight. Please don't try to excuse your shocking ideology as some sort of protection force.

Here we go.. you're just a racist.. blah blah. Change the record.

 

[Pat ex]

BTW, has anyone worked out what war is going on in Albania to make everyone want to escape?

There hasn't been a war in Albania in 25 years, so I don't know what they are claiming asylum from.

If you throw Albanians into the mix (their 'plight' described in the thread)
What part of that is hard to understand?

I'm sure you have the intellectual capacity to google, woody.

As you don't appear to have the intellectual capacity to find out for yourself, here's an explanation:

Why are so many Albanian asylum claims succeeding if the country is so “safe and prosperous”?​

... the Home Office’s own statistics tell a different story: 53% of claimants are currently granted asylum outright following interview, with more cases succeeding on appeal. The newly published updated country policy and information notes also paint a much more mixed picture. What does this tell us?

Why are so many Albanian asylum claims succeeding if the country is so "safe and prosperous"? - Free Movement

In its ongoing drive to reduce Channel crossings, the government has set its sights on arrivals from a “safe and prosperous” Albania. A marked increase in

freemovement.org.uk

 

[Pat ex]

Here we go.. you're just a racist.. blah blah. Change the record.

There's nowt wrong with challenging racist behaviour.
If you think it is wrong to challenge such behaviour, by all means present your intellectual argument.

Do you think andy's ideology of shooting asylum seekers on sight should be challenged or ridiculed?
It's kind of senseless and pointless to provide an intellectual argument against shooting asylum seekers on sight.

 

[Pat ex]

If it's broadcast on our media outlets that not everyone of them has their asylum claim accepted what are we to surmise.?
I've got a ceiling too emulsion but I can hang on two minutes.

The success rate for asylum claims is about 82%.
The success rate for Albanians is 53% on initial application, then more on appeal.

 

[gant]

Here we go.. you're just a racist.. blah blah. Change the record.

I had to ignore him in the end yet still he replies to my posts.

 

[Pat ex]

I had to ignore him in the end yet still he replies to my posts.

You're pretending to ignore me because you don't have an intelligent response to my comments.

BTW, if you ignore me, it does not mean that I am obliged to ignore you.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

It is very easy to understand:

thank you for admitting you have no evidence.

Gant and evidence. The 2 things dont go together

 

[Pat ex]

Gant and evidence. The 2 things dont go together

His (and others') logic doesn't work too well neither.
For instance, why would asylum seekers pay out large sums of money to reach UK (apparently because the benefits are so attractive ), only to not claim asylum when they arrive and scurry off into obscurity, with no income, no accommodation, no possibility of ever staying in UK permanently, and no possibility of ever bringing their family to join them?
It defies logic.

 

[Deleted member 18243]

Only just over a third of the electorate were Conservative in the 2015 election.

No. The 2015 election is highly significant as UKIP, which is a conservative party, received a huge vote which forced the so-called Conservative Party, which isn't a conservative party, to hold the referendum on leaving the EU to try and convince the country that it was actually a conservative party. Together in the 2015 GE, UKIP and the Conservative Party got more votes than all other parties put together, showing that the majority of the population wants a conservative government. It certainly didn't get one though. My claim that any government that actually stops immigration (and not just says that it will stop immigration) would win by a huge landslide, is based on this.

As you don't appear to have the intellectual capacity to find out for yourself, here's an explanation:

Why are so many Albanian asylum claims succeeding if the country is so "safe and prosperous"? - Free Movement

In its ongoing drive to reduce Channel crossings, the government has set its sights on arrivals from a “safe and prosperous” Albania. A marked increase in

freemovement.org.uk

I won't be crying myself to sleep over the plight of those invading fake refugees. British Gas has finally sent me my updated monthly electric payment amount - it has doubled. Not got the gas one yet.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

No. The 2015 election is highly significant as UKIP, which is a conservative party, received a huge vote which forced the so-called Conservative Party, which isn't a conservative party, to hold the referendum on leaving the EU to try and convince the country that it was actually a conservative party. Together in the 2015 GE, UKIP and the Conservative Party got more votes than all other parties put together, showing that the majority of the population wants a conservative government. It certainly didn't get one though. My claim that any government that actually stops immigration (and not just says that it will stop immigration) would win by a huge landslide, is based on this.

I won't be crying myself to sleep over the plight of those invading fake refugees. British Gas has finally sent me my updated monthly electric payment amount - it has doubled. Not got the gas one yet.

So you want to vote Ukip ?

The only problems we have are foreigners?

 

[Pat ex]

The 2015 election ... as UKIP, ... received a huge vote ....Together in the 2015 GE, UKIP and the Conservative Party got more votes than all other parties put together, ....

Another load of absolute bullsh1t.
The Tories got 36.8%, UKIP got 12.6% of the vote.
As you so obviously can't do basic arithmetic, that's 49.4% of the vote.

2015 United Kingdom general election - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And just in case you don't understand what more than the rest means, it's more than 50% share of the vote.

If you want to discuss grown-up affairs, at least let's have a grown-up discussion.

If you reckon that we should count UKIP and Tory vote share as one party, because you claim they have the same manifesto, etc, why didn't the Tories share power with UKIP?
If you can't answer that, your claim that they're both Tories, is so evidently mistaken.

 

[Deleted member 18243]

If you reckon that we should count UKIP and Tory vote share as one party, because you claim they have the same manifesto

Pat you have done it again. Please read what I write before dashing off your missives. I clearly said that UKIP is a conservative party, but that the actual Conservative Party is not a conservative party. The two parties do not have the same aims as each other, but they have the same voters. The voters of the "Conservative Party" deludedly think they are voting for conservatives, when they are actually voting for communists.

The majority of the country wants conservative government.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

The majority of the country wants conservative government.

You have some figures for that?