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Not on a public forum!!!And the EU fell over themselves to lay the red carpet out for them to join.
yes, it's a shame when you extend the hand of friendship to a neighbour, and they let you down.
Germany, which carried the major share of the loans and gifts, is now much less trusting, and unwilling to lend more money to people who won't pay it back. Sadly this gives the Greek politicians the opportunity (though not the excuse) to blame Germany for the mess they've got into.
Germany, which carried the major share of the loans and gifts, is now much less trusting, and unwilling to lend more money to people who won't pay it back. Sadly this gives the Greek politicians the opportunity (though not the excuse) to blame Germany for the mess they've got into.
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Because the Eurocrats were only interested in aggrandizement, enlarging their tin-pot 'empire' regardless of the consequences. I would find
it hard to believe that no-one in EU Towers would have been aware of the deception.
Corrected that for ya
Ah, you're referring to those imaginary evil alien lizards again.
Do try to grasp the fact that the European Parliament, and the Council of ministers, are all elected by citizens of the constituent countries, or nominated by the governments of those countries.
Perhaps you like to say silly things like "HMRC have put taxes up again" or "Social Workers in Whitehall are cutting benefit payments"
I don't know about all this Eurob*ll*cks, but I do know that I would rather be governed by our own cr*p in Westminster, than the Eurocr*p in Brussels (or is it Strasbourg?)
Probably from Junker's ar$e.
Look, John, to be honest I'm a C3; the only four things I want from life are my beer, my Astra, 10 days on the Costas, and not to be ruled by them in Europe.
My grandad was in the War.
Ultimately from the non-elected European Comissioners headed by that petulent Euro-loon, Jean-Claud Juncker.
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I was reading a novel recently, by Bryce Courtenay, about a family of Maloneys, Irish descent, in Australia.
Time and again the phrase comes up, "forgot to take the spoon out of the sink!" It refers to a plan of filling the sink with water, but when you turn on the tap, the water jet hits the spoon and splashes you in the face, down your front, and the sink takes much longer to fill. You either have to brave the water jet to turn off the water, or run away, leaving the water going all over the place.
The Brexiters seem to have the same approach. They have this grand idea of Brexit, reclaiming sovereignty, reducing immigration and the UK becoming the world's richest country. The problem is, not only have they forgotten to take the spoon out of the sink, they've left the whole effing drawer of cutlery in there!
They have no idea what will happen to the economy following Brexit, no idea how trade will be affected, no idea what kind of deals we'll be in, no idea how those deals may affect immigration, no idea if we'll be in Schengen Area, no idea how much those deals will cost us, no idea how employment will be affected, no idea what will happen to current EU workers in UK, no idea what will happen to ex-pats, no idea what will happen with visas, no idea what will happen in Ireland, etc, etc.
They don't even seem to have given it much thought!
Like the American expression, "to cover all the bases". The Brexiters are only aware of one base: immigration! But they've only considered less than half of that one!
Then they twist the facts in an attempt to scare us. Talking about all the crim's from Turkey coming to UK, not that Turkey will accede any time soon. Turkey has much lower crime statistics than we do!
It's just as well that Italy has been in EU for so long, otherwise we'd have scare tactics of Mafioso invading UK.
Time and again the phrase comes up, "forgot to take the spoon out of the sink!" It refers to a plan of filling the sink with water, but when you turn on the tap, the water jet hits the spoon and splashes you in the face, down your front, and the sink takes much longer to fill. You either have to brave the water jet to turn off the water, or run away, leaving the water going all over the place.
The Brexiters seem to have the same approach. They have this grand idea of Brexit, reclaiming sovereignty, reducing immigration and the UK becoming the world's richest country. The problem is, not only have they forgotten to take the spoon out of the sink, they've left the whole effing drawer of cutlery in there!
They have no idea what will happen to the economy following Brexit, no idea how trade will be affected, no idea what kind of deals we'll be in, no idea how those deals may affect immigration, no idea if we'll be in Schengen Area, no idea how much those deals will cost us, no idea how employment will be affected, no idea what will happen to current EU workers in UK, no idea what will happen to ex-pats, no idea what will happen with visas, no idea what will happen in Ireland, etc, etc.
They don't even seem to have given it much thought!
Like the American expression, "to cover all the bases". The Brexiters are only aware of one base: immigration! But they've only considered less than half of that one!
Then they twist the facts in an attempt to scare us. Talking about all the crim's from Turkey coming to UK, not that Turkey will accede any time soon. Turkey has much lower crime statistics than we do!
It's just as well that Italy has been in EU for so long, otherwise we'd have scare tactics of Mafioso invading UK.
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All this is just scaremongering. We managed OK for 900-odd years before and will continue to do so.
But remember that things in the EU are not looking rosy. The Euro lurches from crisis to crisis, the Italian bank problem is looming, and in most countries, the far-right political parties are gaining ground - look at Austria yesterday.
Rather than seeing the EU as some sort of comforting nanny, many of us see it as a slowly-sinking ship, failing ultimately under the weight of its' own hubris. The last political experiment in trying to unify disparate nations also failed - it was called the USSR.
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