Whose fault is the flooding?
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@ ARon SEarle
Yesterday I googled the word 'dredging' and the first three examples were explicitly stating that dredging will not prevent major flooding.
The fact that it may or may not solve some of the problems in the Somerset levels have no bearing on the major rivers that flood, so I have no idea why you keep on cherry picking this little snippet.
We are not talking about little streams and drains here but major waterways that are flooding the country, i.e. Thames, Severn, Trent etc.
Why you think that dredging some backwater flood plain is going to prevent the country from major floods is beyond me.
And you dare to call other diy not members thick.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-26175210
Yesterday I googled the word 'dredging' and the first three examples were explicitly stating that dredging will not prevent major flooding.
The fact that it may or may not solve some of the problems in the Somerset levels have no bearing on the major rivers that flood, so I have no idea why you keep on cherry picking this little snippet.
We are not talking about little streams and drains here but major waterways that are flooding the country, i.e. Thames, Severn, Trent etc.
Why you think that dredging some backwater flood plain is going to prevent the country from major floods is beyond me.
And you dare to call other diy not members thick.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-26175210
Looking at the amount of floodwater I'm guessing the rivers would need to be dredged to about 1/4 mile in depth.
Which when you consider the Navy will need some safe, deep water in a sparesely populated area to moor their nuclear subs when the Scots decare independance and turn Faslane into an Irn-Bru storage facility could kill two birds with one stone
Which when you consider the Navy will need some safe, deep water in a sparesely populated area to moor their nuclear subs when the Scots decare independance and turn Faslane into an Irn-Bru storage facility could kill two birds with one stone
Charting global temps over 15 years is insignificant.
https://www2.ucar.edu/climate/faq/how-much-has-global-temperature-risen-last-100-years
You need to look at 100 years minimum.
Has been dips before and then steadily increases again. The current one is just a momentary pause before things get going again as explained in the link.
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Spot on Norcon. What the posts to this issue show is that we don't know! There are as many 'experts' sceptical about global warming as there are those that support the theory.
Try to keep up, I never said it was. I specifically said 'regardless of whether that phenomenon has anything to do with global warming or not'.
You must do when you asked such a dumb question. Its obvious you think it significant.
No climate change scientist can give a theory (or would even attempt too) on why "these events" (as you put it) could be linked to the jet streams current inconsistencies as the time period you cite off 15 years is just too minuscule and insignificant.
Now try back peddling on this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuPJoA9gIro
[Ok, well you had better inform the netherlands of this, they could do with your expertise, it would save them all the money of having to maintain the lowlands, all those existing drainage boards in the UK that managed to survive the government can also be closed down, clearly they are not needed, what a waste of hundreds of years of effort to keep the lowlands clear, it clearly wasnt needed
You are comparing our major flood problems with the Nederlands?
REALLY!
Jeepers you are dumb. Shocking analogy.
"Unpredictibility" I believe was his point. And that I can certainly agree with.
Just a few years ago we had one of the wettest periods in living memory which lasted nearly 12 months then last year we have a scorching summer.
Before that we had two freezing polar type winters. Just not normal.
Now we have storm after storm after storm.
No one can look forward to the summer and say it will be hot and sunny with the farmers making millions of bales of hay like back in the ole days when the unpredictable climate of today might well throw 6 months of constant rain at beleaguered farmers right through the summer.
Not really, because you assume all skeptics are "LALALA no rise in temperatures", there are several different type of skeptics, just as there are global warmists, global alarmists, and people who think we should live in mud huts worshiping gia.
Putting aside this, the point of global warming and climate change is what it will do in 50-100 years, nobody with any sense should care about the current 0.5c rise in temperatures (which neither proves or disproves anything on its own), its a rounding error that means nothing, all current weather patterns are nothing unusual,and this is something any sensible climate change believer would agree with.
[Ok, well you had better inform the netherlands of this, they could do with your expertise, it would save them all the money of having to maintain the lowlands, all those existing drainage boards in the UK that managed to survive the government can also be closed down, clearly they are not needed, what a waste of hundreds of years of effort to keep the lowlands clear, it clearly wasnt needed
You are comparing our major flood problems with the Nederlands?
REALLY!
Jeepers you are dumb. Shocking analogy.
More ad hominem, no links to any studies, you need to step up your game if you want to play with the big boys.
Ive given several credible links, you have given us a BBC article and lots of your own hot air
http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/9137131/instant-wildlife-just-add-water/
Want help removing your foot from your mouth?
Jeepers you are gullible ARon SE.
If you actually think that the link is saying that dredging the Thames would prevent major flooding then you are a complete idiot.
Or a troll.....?
Come to think of it, you are rather vociferous in accusing others of trolling so maybe 'tis true.
Thou protesteth rather a lot and contribute very little = Troll.
If you actually think that the link is saying that dredging the Thames would prevent major flooding then you are a complete idiot.
Or a troll.....?
Come to think of it, you are rather vociferous in accusing others of trolling so maybe 'tis true.
Thou protesteth rather a lot and contribute very little = Troll.
Ive given several credible links, you have given us a BBC article and lots of your own hot air
http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-floods-somerset-levels-david-cameron-farmers
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/26119937...especially for you this one ARon SE.
From what i have read, dredging will not prevent major flooding.
What it will do is help with drainage, whereby man wishes to artificially drain wetlands and I guess this is why you keep harking back to the Somerset levels.
However the Somerset levels drainage problem solution is not a panacea for countrywide major flooding. You are wrong.
So 1-0 to me ARon SEarl
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...Dr Colin Clark is a research and consultant hydrologist who has over 60 published papers. He has been advisory editor to eight scientific journals and is in charge of Charldon Hill Research Station in Somerset, where the longest running measurements of evaporation in England are currently being made...
Dr C's take on the situation (he is qualified, and close to hand) worth a read - if interested. http://tinyurl.com/nphznmc
Have ditches been infilled ? Possibly so.
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From the land of the summer pastures. - 400 metres from R. Avon, but thankfully 40 metres above it ! Can witness a small flood plain in action nearby.
The Avon has a greater drop to the Severn estuary than the R. Parrot (the latter being tidal for 27 miles it is said) having a drop of 1 foot / mile
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Dr C's take on the situation (he is qualified, and close to hand) worth a read - if interested. http://tinyurl.com/nphznmc
Have ditches been infilled ? Possibly so.
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From the land of the summer pastures. - 400 metres from R. Avon, but thankfully 40 metres above it ! Can witness a small flood plain in action nearby.
The Avon has a greater drop to the Severn estuary than the R. Parrot (the latter being tidal for 27 miles it is said) having a drop of 1 foot / mile
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