Why I care so much about Israel.

[Mrs Ten Names]

do you have notch on block or not read his rants he is clearly in need of help and if telling him to seek helps gets him to do so it may just save him and his family from a lifetime of torture .

Anything to add relevant to the topic?

 

[Notch7]

you mean mottie is stating the obvious that all in here can see , that Notch obviously has mental issues with his rants

I am sorry this forum is a bit intellectual for you, I feel sorry for you, the graduate level debate is leaving you floundering

I politely suggest you go back to the plumbers section where you will be more at home....talking about pipe bending

off you toddle

 

[Odds]

Well, we've listened what Douglas Murray has to say but why does FillyB. care so much about Israel, that he's prepared to ignore the criminal activities of the incumbent genocidal maniac in charge of all this carnage?

 

[gas112]

I am sorry this forum is a bit intellectual for you, I feel sorry for you, the graduate level debate is leaving you floundering

I politely suggest you go back to the plumbers section where you will be more at home....talking about pipe bending

off you toddle

oh deary me do you still have that A level chippy qualification framed up on your wall . bet you had to buy the frame .
Probably just beside the high shelf the nurse keeps the meds on

 

[JohnD]

Do you care about racism, apartheid and genocide?

I do.

 

[Notch7]

oh deary me do you still have that A level chippy qualification framed up on your wall . bet you had to buy the frame .
Probably just beside the high shelf the nurse keeps the meds on

doubling down on your immaturity

not a good look

 

[ajohn]

What’s your option of the Hamas invasion of Isreal last year. Did they have it coming?

The drive for a 2 state solution is all about trying to prevent similar happenings again. It's not a new idea and it can be argued that it should have happened already but hasn't.

The previous uprising resulted in a partially stone age Gaza. This hasn't resulted in a fix. There are similarities with IDF raids in the West Bank. They haven't resulted in a fix either.

 

[denso13]

not a good look

He supports people who break the law, including rapists. Don't expect too much...

 

[motorbiking]

As I have said many times on here: Hamas are terrorists and I totally condemn the atrocities committed by Hamas on Oct 7 and any other times.

I also condemn the Israel govt and military for the appalling atrocities inflicted on thousands of Palestinians…..all because Netanyahu is desperately clinging onto power


I have stated this many times.

I have a similar view. Except I acknowledge it’s a war, it’s asymmetrical and Hamas are leveraging civilians as part of the strategy.

 

[motorbiking]

Israel should have been ( and I suspect they were) aware of the threat of a serious uprising by Hamas and other groups.
They'd been subjecting Palestinians, especially in Gaza, but also in the West Bank to inhuman subjugation, torture, arrest without charge or reason, extra-judicial killing, apartheid, and restriction of association, etc for 70 years.
There's no global equivalence to the monitoring of a border greater than the Israel - Gaza one.
There's no global equivalence of monitoring of communications between civilians and Hamas ( and other armed groups), greater than that in Gaza.
Israel claims to know precisely where Hamas and other armed groups are, down to a few metres inside Gaza, Lebanon and Iran.
Yet they (claim) that they had no forewarning of the Hamas and other groups incursion into Israel.
It was an operation planed months in advance, supposedly by persons or groups financed by and from Iran.
Israel were so careless as to allow a pop concert within 3 miles of the Israel - Gaza border.
They were so careless to allow reductions and relaxations of the protection of that border.
The exact location wasn't disclosed until a few hours before the start of the concert.
And the concert was staged so close to a weak, probably the weakest, part of the border.

If you believe that, you're more gullible than I gave you credit.

It was an excuse to reign terror on Gaza for the ultimate aims of the Zionists in the Israeli government.
Even now they continue to provoke Lebanon and Iran into a full scale regional conflict, all with the support of USA and other western powers.

We know you are a terrorist sympathiser, hence why I didn’t ask you.

 

[Odds]

I have a similar view. Except I acknowledge it’s a war, it’s asymmetrical and Hamas are leveraging civilians as part of the strategy.

while Israel prefers to just kill them.

 

[motorbiking]

I don’t think that is true.

 

[Odds]

Over 40,000 civilians killed over the last 10 months suggests it is.

 

[motorbiking]

The word you used is prefer.

 

[Notch7]

I have a similar view. Except I acknowledge it’s a war, it’s asymmetrical and Hamas are leveraging civilians as part of the strategy.

and there we have it folks

Motorbiking refuses to condemn the atrocities committed by the state of Israel on the innocent people of gaza

Motorbiking not only does not condemn but justifies Israels action by falsely claiming its a war.