Zion and the Art of Armageddon

If you wish to compare Saddam Hussein with Benjamin Netanyahu, go ahead. If you're going to play the numbers game then you need to find statistics for how many Palestinians have been killed since 1948. More than half a million, i bet. You'll also have to take into account the number of civilians still living in refugee camps or those displaced around the world. It's a zero-sum game, all this whataboutery.
Agreed

They are totally different conflicts, it’s meaningless trying to make any comparison.

The Israel and Palestine conflict is a story really about innocent Israel civilians and innocent Palestinians being used as pawns in a geopolitical game.
 
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An Israeli investigation has found that an Israeli woman who was seized during the October 7 Hamas attack was “most likely” killed when an Israeli combat helicopter fired on her kidnappers’ vehicle. Efrat Katz and most of the fighters in the vehicle were killed when the aircraft fired on them, the army investigation said on Friday.

The army statement said the mistake occurred because surveillance systems could not distinguish captives from kidnappers once in a vehicle, and that “the shooting was defined as shooting at a vehicle with terrorists”.


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Artifical Idiots strike again.
 
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There is also something else going on in this war. Explained by an ex IDF man but similar has been mentioned at times by others.
Just use pulling the trigger to shoot someone but it applies to any weapon.

A soldier can be trained to carefully consider the need to shoot and to also consider collateral damage. An alternative is to forget all of that and shoot if there is the slightest suspicion. Hence a couple of Israeli waving white flags being shot by their own side. Then comes kill zones. Anyone seen in them will be shot. Hospitals - stay in there, come out and you will be shot. The World Kitchen people - very marginal doubt about them so hit with a drone.

In some ways this area relates to critical comments coming out of the US and too many deaths. They are being too indiscriminate. Big bombs on civilian buildings if there is the slightest sniff of a reason for it. Also infrastrure when there is no real reason for it.

Actually go back to before the 7th and there are indications of either journalists being deliberately aimed at or an IDF not being concerned about who is in his firing line. Another. Palestinian on the floor, no real problem, IDF shoots him anyway and the crowd cheers.
 
There is also something else going on in this war. Explained by an ex IDF man but similar has been mentioned at times by others.
Just use pulling the trigger to shoot someone but it applies to any weapon.

A soldier can be trained to carefully consider the need to shoot and to also consider collateral damage. An alternative is to forget all of that and shoot if there is the slightest suspicion. Hence a couple of Israeli waving white flags being shot by their own side. Then comes kill zones. Anyone seen in them will be shot. Hospitals - stay in there, come out and you will be shot. The World Kitchen people - very marginal doubt about them so hit with a drone.

In some ways this area relates to critical comments coming out of the US and too many deaths. They are being too indiscriminate. Big bombs on civilian buildings if there is the slightest sniff of a reason for it. Also infrastrure when there is no real reason for it.

Actually go back to before the 7th and there are indications of either journalists being deliberately aimed at or an IDF not being concerned about who is in his firing line. Another. Palestinian on the floor, no real problem, IDF shoots him anyway and the crowd cheers.
...then an IDF spokesman will be along shortly to blow smoke over the issue.
 
Berty wants to defend Israel's actions, but is unsuccessful. So he seeks to create a smokescreen, which boils down to "there are also some other things that happened in the world."

This is no excuse for Israel's persistent racism, apartheid and genocide.

Good to see that Berty is keeping it in the public eye.
 
Berty wants to defend Israel's actions, but is unsuccessful. So he seeks to create a smokescreen, which boils down to "there are also some other things that happened in the world."

This is no excuse for Israel's persistent racism, apartheid and genocide.

Good to see that Berty is keeping it in the public eye.

Not at all. I'm just putting the situation in context and questioning why people such as yourself are so logically inconsistent. And why you apply different and much higher standards to Israel specifically.

As you have not been able to answer this question I am left to conclude that you are either anit semitic or unwittingly being led in your thinking and words by those who are. Probably the latter in your case.
 
Not at all. I'm just putting the situation in context

Nobody has ever stopped you starting a thread about the Iraq war, or the death of one journalist many years ago.

You are trying to distract from Israel's persistent racism, apartheid and genocide.
 
You are trying to distract from Israel's persistent racism, apartheid and genocide.

Yes, John.

Let's try a little thought experiment...

Mexico decides the people of the United States and their country must be erased from the face of the earth. They launch rockets at the US states of California and Texas, all day and all night, for years on end. They even send in troops to gang rape and murder women and children in a small town in New Mexico.

... do you imagine that the US would care what you think about what their response ought to be? Do you think the regime newspapers and TV would take Mexico's side? And what do you imagine the US response would be?

Let's be honest. The scenario is impossible. Had the Mexican government sent even a couple of misses over the border, the US wouldn't set up a defence system to live with it as an ongoing threat, and they wouldn't try to live with their sworn enemies such that the rape attack could ever occur.

Mexico would've been bombed to smithereens, invaded, and its government toppled after the firing of one missile. And you would support it.
 
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