A COVID 19 fiasco

[fillyboy]

You're right, Sweden! I think it's because in my head I use a stupid accent for it that drags out the ee

What do the mortality figures show and how do they differ from what I'm saying? Let's try to be clear, because so far nothing in this thread has been.

I'm just repeating what EFL said because you didn't appear to understand what he said.

My thoughts: Although everyone ridicules Ryler, he does raise a few pertinent points. Worldwide deaths from Covid, 800,000. Worldwide deaths from the 1968 flu pandemic, up to 4 million.

In 1968 there were no lockdowns, and the world economy wasn't trashed.

I try not to be a conspiracy theorist, that's nutters territory, but, if someone asked me to come up with one, I might say that global economies have never recovered from the financial crash of 2008 and were looking like they never would, a global pandemic, ground zero and reset the entire economy to a low wage one. How many multi-nationals are creating redundancies and re-employing at a lower pay scale?

Food for thought?

 

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[IT Minion]

I'm just repeating what EFL said because you didn't appear to understand what he said.

My thoughts: Although everyone ridicules Ryler, he does raise a few pertinent points. Worldwide deaths from Covid, 800,000. Worldwide deaths from the 1968 flu pandemic, up to 4 million.

In 1968 there were no lockdowns, and the world economy wasn't trashed.

I try not to be a conspiracy theorist, that's nutters territory, but, if someone asked me to come up with one, I might say that global economies have never recovered from the financial crash of 2008 and were looking like they never would, a global pandemic, ground zero and reset the entire economy to a low wage one. How many multi-nationals are creating redundancies and re-employing at a lower pay scale?

Food for thought?

Nope, and still haven't explained anything.

 

[Ryler]

No. There's data.

And is pretty meaningless until we know it all....


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-...ckdown-could-kill-covid-19-model-predicts-12/

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/29/europe/lockdown-skeptics-coronavirus-intl/index.html

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...ly-caused-16-000-excess-deaths-study-12044923

No denial in Sweden.
No media frenzy.
No lockdown.
No masks.
No panicking.
No economy decimated like here in the UK.
No hiding and juking in the supermarket aisles like everyone's got leprosy.
No school closures.
No childrens futures jepordized.

 

[sodthisforfun]

And is pretty meaningless until know it all....


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-...ckdown-could-kill-covid-19-model-predicts-12/

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/29/europe/lockdown-skeptics-coronavirus-intl/index.html

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...ly-caused-16-000-excess-deaths-study-12044923

No denial in Sweden.
No media frenzy.
No lockdown.
No masks.
No panicking.
No economy decimated like here in the UK.
No hiding and juking in the supermarket aisles like everyone's got leprosy.
No school closures.
No childrens futures jepordized.

And yet you don't think they're doing all that good with the virus

Never said they were OK.
In fact they are pretty far from being OK.
But pretty good considering they never had a lock down.

 

[Ryler]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news

 

[sodthisforfun]

Worldwide deaths from Covid, 800,000. Worldwide deaths from the 1968 flu pandemic, up to 4 million.

In 1968 there were no lockdowns, and the world economy wasn't trashed.

You make it sound like losing 4 million people was ok because the economy wasn't trashed...
4 million loved ones. Sounds like they needed a lockdown!

 

[Ryler]

And yet you don't think they're doing all that good with the virus

Pretty good since they had no lock down.

 

[sodthisforfun]

Pretty good since they had no lock down.

But they could've done better if they had...

 

[Ryler]

You make it sound like losing 4 million people was ok because the economy wasn't trashed...

Do you ever lock down when people are dying from the flu?
Hypocrites are always flushed out in situations like this.

 

[Ryler]

QUOTE="sodthisforfun, post: 4714483, member: 255146"]But they could've done better if they had...[/QUOTE]

Then they have the fall out from a decimated economy to deal with.
Hospitals shut down and people who need treatment ignored.

 

[sodthisforfun]

Do you ever lock down when people are dying from the flu?
Hypocrites are always flushed out in situations like this.

Why hypocrites?
Why do you avoid the details? This isn't flu, it's not like a normal flu and it's something new which had to be assessed/studied before allowing the population to get sick in vast numbers by carrying on as normal. You can't treat this as flu until you know the risks so you're comparing apples and oranges.
It's deadly and mucking up bodies in ways that are baffling medical science. It's also leaving a lot of people with long-term illnesses which cost jobs, the NHS funds and mental health. It makes sense to me to keep those numbers as low as possible before we are left with a whole load of the population off sick and using up precious NHS funds. You talk about the economy, it's not the only thing that is costing.

By the way, the economy is now growing again.

 

[IT Minion]

No denial in Sweden

Lucky buggers. We're stuck with you.

 

[sodthisforfun]

And is pretty meaningless until we know it all....



No denial in Sweden.
No media frenzy.
No lockdown.
No masks.
No panicking.
No economy decimated like here in the UK.
No hiding and juking in the supermarket aisles like everyone's got leprosy.
No school closures.
No childrens futures jepordized.

I suggest you read this:
https://www.newscientist.com/articl...trategy-a-cautionary-tale-or-a-success-story/
It kinda debunks a lot of what you're saying above.

 

[Ryler]

What all the researchers agree on is that it isn’t over yet.
And until it is, all you have is opinions.