Anyone got any evidence for a god?

The point being Joe... for me as an atheist I understand the notion of the big bang, and the timeline, and evolution... it all seems provable.

I have no concept of a "before" the big bang.. but you postulate that a god created everything... well that neither proves nor solves anything, because what created your god?

We get into a russian doll syndrome.

The point is, we should live our lives the best we can based on the best we know... and religion only knows a much twisted text, whereas science has the actuals...

Joe, it's simple, fact versus fable !

You either assume that life has a purpose that we cannot fathom or it doesn't. Enjoy your nihilist utopia.
 
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Joe, you're a pandeist then?

Seems an odd stance to take because you're not much different from an atheist, except you call "the lack of understanding of how it happened" a god !!
 
and that's the problem Joe... someone challenges you, and you either get silly, get aggressive, get irrational, get stuff deleted, or get gone !
 
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Mike, there will be bad people in any walk of life... your link is shameful, but irrelavent.

I want proof of god because some believers think I should die because I don't believe. And on top of that, some seemingly intelligent people actually believe the babble (sorry bible), and yet there is no measurable evidence of any of it - just belief.

What's your take on UFO's Mike from Londinium?

The link was to demonstrate how one's mind can be manipulated using electrical signals, with probes attached and even without (Wireless signal injection) as in microwaves which penetrate cells, so be ware when you use your mobile, there could be other forms of modulations besides your normal sound being conveyed, that can interfere with your thoughts. for example external control can signal your phone transmitter to radiate a certain frequency that can interfere with your mind, similarly the context of my post was to demonstrate that certain invisible entities can project or beam signals intended for one and not others, as often people describe seeing things which others around them cannot see, and we often think the person is going crazy, but he may be a target o0f a mind exploitation by spiritual entities, they can attack, take over your mind. Sort of paranormal.

And yes I do believe unreservedly in UFO. They don't just exist, but must do so. Law of averages will tell you there must be 10,000 in the least planets that are leaps ahead of us and similarly tens of thousand leaps behind us.

Proof.. we have been visited, lots of proof is available like the Egyptian Pyramids, Stonehenge, crop circles, other monumental and big structures that even modern technology would have great difficulty erecting using modern cranes.f
 
Mike, there will be bad people in any walk of life... your link is shameful, but irrelavent.

I want proof of god because some believers think I should die because I don't believe. And on top of that, some seemingly intelligent people actually believe the babble (sorry bible), and yet there is no measurable evidence of any of it - just belief.

What's your take on UFO's Mike from Londinium?

The link was to demonstrate how one's mind can be manipulated using electrical signals, with probes attached and even without (Wireless signal injection) as in microwaves which penetrate cells, so be ware when you use your mobile, there could be other forms of modulations besides your normal sound being conveyed, that can interfere with your thoughts. for example external control can signal your phone transmitter to radiate a certain frequency that can interfere with your mind, similarly the context of my post was to demonstrate that certain invisible entities can project or beam signals intended for one and not others, as often people describe seeing things which others around them cannot see, and we often think the person is going crazy, but he may be a target o0f a mind exploitation by spiritual entities, they can attack, take over your mind. Sort of paranormal.

And yes I do believe unreservedly in UFO. They don't just exist, but must do so. Law of averages will tell you there must be 10,000 in the least planets that are leaps ahead of us and similarly tens of thousand leaps behind us.

Mike, you're a wind up merchant, nothing more, nothing less... Probably a different account that Joe uses..

Prove me wrong with a revelation !!!
 
Mike, you're a wind up merchant, nothing more, nothing less... Probably a different account that Joe uses..

Prove me wrong with a revelation !!!


No Sombrero, you don't understand, you are looking for God but can't see him because you are part of him, you are living inside God, and you are bound by his laws, which no one can escape, we are all cocooned, the universe itself is part of that living God, leave it mate, you have not got the exceptional non-scientific ability to comprehend this, oh and I am definitely not Joe, but nothing wrong with him and his ideas about God. You are denying yourself the truth of the matter, because it is difficult for some to agree, hence the problem, with all those religions which contradict each other, and all those killings in the name of God. I am sure God must be so un-happy.
 
Long time ago, man did not know how babies are made, but gradually noticed that when he mates with a woman only then the woman gets a baby, but he was so badly confused as some times nothing would happen, he wondered why, he did not know why women bleed, so after many thousands of years he realised that women have menstruation and there is a small window during which if you perform intercourse the woman gives a birth.

But he was still very puzzled how? and what makes a woman pregnant, he thought it was only a greyish fluid that he ejaculated that made the babies, he could not see anything special inside it,

then another two or three thousand years passed away and someone then invented a microscope, and when they analysed the grey fluid, they saw small tadpoles swimming in it!

They said hey presto! we know now what makes these babies, now we know how babies are made, but still it was not quite true!

then a few more hundred years passed away, man started to develop very fast, industrial revolution took place, and one man discovered that cells have a DNA which makes each person a unique, and all that chromosomes and what not, half from a woman and half from a man and a new child takes on a new ID.

So now we have reached this far , but we still don't know what gives babies the life, so Sombrero you need to do more research and find out what makes us think, how we get personality, and why if we revive a drowned person soon after he dies, that he never recovers, yet the cells have not totally deformed in such a short time,so we need to find out why life is so delicate and it is not physical, it is a spirit, where does it come from, we still have a long way to go.


PS. When scientist try to clone other life forms, since they now understand the mechanism of chromosomes and DNA, they take a cell and strip out its DNA and insert DNA from another animal to be cloned and they then have to induce a electrical spark to trigger the process...


so it is not just the cells and DNA being given the right environment to multiply, but the clue is that an electrical spark had to be induced to trigger the reproduction mechanism of cells, without which the cells do not reproduce or start developing.

Isn't therefore an electrical charge some sort of energy or spirit?
 
Just got an idea, I see many times on casualty TV program, where during emergency the patient's heart stops, they try to revive the patient using electrical defibrillation pads, passing high voltage to his heart muscles to start pumping again, often not succeeding, not sure if applying electrical charge to their brain might resolve the issue and the patient starts to breath again, worth a try! send 500V across the forehead might put a spirit back in the patient and his heart starts to beat again.
 
Just got an idea, I see many times on casualty TV program, where during emergency the patient's heart stops, they try to revive the patient using electrical defibrillation pads, passing high voltage to his heart muscles to start pumping again, often not succeeding, not sure if applying electrical charge to their brain might resolve the issue and the patient starts to breath again, worth a try! send 500V across the forehead might put a spirit back in the patient and his heart starts to beat again.

Crikey your so wrong there. A defibrillator actually stops the heart .The brain then re-sets the hearts normal rhythm.
Passing a voltage across the brain, will induce an epileptic fit (much favoured in asylums and psychiatric units for years) It was called Electro Convulsive Therapy (ECT) ;)
 
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