Budget

[motorbiking]

you mean to borrow more, right?

Her spending plans aren't credible. You don't suddenly inject a boost in capital expenditure and expect to reduce it in 2 years time.

 

[JohnD]

Let me give you a start.

Employers NI will start at £5,000 rather than £9,000, so paid on an additional £4,000 for people who earn at least £9,000

So a person earning £20,000 would cost an extra £600 a year.

 

[ajohn]

When voters ask themselves whether they feel better off in three or four years, the government needs the answer to be yes. Yet living standards are expected to increase by just 0.5% a year during this parliament, downgraded in part because of the impact of higher NICS on real wages.

LOL and ignore the why's on the NIC's. It and the other is actually expected to add a bit of inflation next year and just that year.

Also forget a serious number if billions for building repairs and some other areas.

What she is doing is avoiding another Truss. That was down to the markets realising there must be unfunded spending plans. You want another?

LOL Living standards - just how much have those improved over a rather large number of years?

It's very easy to argue yourself up your own backside in this area and there will be people who will encourage you to do that.

 

[motorbiking]

Let's suppose you are a prosperous person, well into the wealthiest 10% of the population. You have been able to contribute, free of income tax and NI, to your pension scheme, and your fund, now the cap was abolished, is worth £1.5 million. You paid no tax on the money that went in, and you have profited greatly by taking out £250,000 tax free. Over the last 12 months, the fund grew by £300,000. Your tax free ISA is worth more than a million, and you keep a £50,000 cash cushion in tax-free Premium Bonds. You own several houses. You like to describe your wealth as "modest."

Should the tax-free value of your pension scheme be free of inheritance tax when it is passed on after your death?

You say yes.


I say no.

Another Number 8 from JohnD.. He does like taking examples and completely changing them to suit an entirely different argument.

Oooh got another one to add to my list you are in at number 6

Yep forget it - its like talking to a knitted jumper. They come back with
1 "no it doesn't"
2 Utter nonsense.
3 Who are these you speak of?
4 It isn't being controlled by the lizards....
5 When did it say that
6 Ask them?
7 Then you will waste your time collating the proof and they will completely ignore it.
8 Then there are some on here who will completely make things up that you said and heavily edit your post to fit their point,
9 or will make things up that you are thinking and post them in quote marks like its something that you actually said.
10 Then there are those on here who deliberately try to antagonise the poster to try and get the thread shut down or the poster banned.
Its actually best just to not reply and let them takeover and have their own circular Wan# over the subject

 

[aveatry]

Populism is a con,
People like you are taken in by the con.
The movements and parties that belong to it share xenophobic, nationalistic traits, a tendency toward authoritarianism, aggressive leadership, control of the media, control of the law, high level of corruption, nepotism.
Voting for populists like Trump, Farage, Johnson results in ordinary working people being made poorer with fewer rights

Its a Populist Chancellor
Raising Tax on private jets
Removing benefits from rich pensioners
Taxing non doms
Less tax on beer
More tax on second homes
more tax for the rich capitol gains
min wage up
VAT on private schools
All populist moves

 

[Notch7]

Agree with the first sentence, but the second sentence ignores that the champion of the post office scandal victims was a Tory MP under a Labour government and the previous government had already announced a compensation scheme for both. So thats Labour carrying on the good work of fine Tory MPs

That’s bolox

The post office scandal came to light in autumn 2009

So the post office scandal was known and not dealt with for 14 years of Tory

 

[JohnD]

Another Number 8 from JohnD.. He does like taking examples and completely changing them to suit an entirely different argument.

I've given an example of the sort of person who would lose the tax loophole.

It is accurate.

You falsely pretended it would apply to

pensioners with modest assets

 

[motorbiking]

Just to check, what do you think is the weekly cost of employing a young person on minimum wage, including employer's NI, at the current rate?

What do you think will be the additional cost per week, at the new rate?

I know it's hard for you imagine being 18 and looking for your first job. But employers just got a big incentive to not hire you in favour of someone older with more experience at 21. Enjoy being out of work, or illegally cash in hand for the next 3 years

 

[Notch7]

Its a Populist Chancellor
Raising Tax on private jets
Removing benefits from rich pensioners
Taxing non doms
Less tax on beer
More tax on second homes
more tax for the rich capitol gains
min wage up
VAT on private schools
All populist moves

None of that is populist

Aveatry instead of posting nonsense go and learn what populism means.

 

[Notch7]

I know it's hard for you imagine being 18 and looking for your first job. But employers just got a big incentive to not hire you in favour of someone older with more experience at 21. Enjoy being out of work, or illegally cash in hand for the next 3 years

Motorbiking wants people to work for so little they can’t afford to eat.

 

[securespark]

Surely the Labour government does not need to raise any extra money?

After all, we are saving billions not being in the EU any more, aren't we?

 

[motorbiking]

That’s bolox

The post office scandal came to light in autumn 2009

So the post office scandal was known and not dealt with for 14 years of Tory

James Arbuthnot the Tory MP at the time. Remember him? Surely you've watch the TV shows.

 

[motorbiking]

Motorbiking wants people to work for so little they can’t afford to eat.

Nope - I want employers to be incentivised to give young people a break on their first Job. That just ended,

 

[aveatry]

Motorbiking wants people to work for so little they can’t afford to eat.

Yep there's a number 9 from notch

Yep forget it - its like talking to a knitted jumper. They come back with
1 "no it doesn't"
2 Utter nonsense.
3 Who are these you speak of?
4 It isn't being controlled by the lizards....
5 When did it say that
6 Ask them?
7 Then you will waste your time collating the proof and they will completely ignore it.
8 Then there are some on here who will completely make things up that you said and heavily edit your post to fit their point,
9 or will make things up that you are thinking and post them in quote marks like its something that you actually said.
10 Then there are those on here who deliberately try to antagonise the poster to try and get the thread shut down or the poster banned.
Its actually best just to not reply and let them takeover and have their own circular Wan# over the subject

 

[JohnD]

I know it's hard for you imagine being 18 and looking for your first job. But employers just got a big incentive to not hire you in favour of someone older with more experience at 21. Enjoy being out of work, or illegally cash in hand for the next 3 years

I was working before I was 18. I was cheap.

A cheap worker plus some NI is still cheaper than a less-cheap worker with more NI.

You know that, really.

You don't really care about young people.

You just want to leave more money in the pockets of the employer

And less for public services.