Commons Statement on Hillsborough

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He has been immersed in "WHY" for the last 23 years.

Just inform him they died because a bunch of louts wanted desperately to see a football match.
Let the louts be named and shamed. The true killers on that fateful day.
But they will never stand forward because they are cowards.

The only coward I can see here is you, a p***k and a coward?

Snico,I have given as much info about the truth and even posted links for them to read but knobheads will never accept it for whatever reason
 
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Sooey wrote

He has been immersed in "WHY" for the last 23 years.

Just inform him they died because a bunch of louts wanted desperately to see a football match.
Let the louts be named and shamed. The true killers on that fateful day.
But they will never stand forward because they are cowards.

The only coward I can see here is you, a p***k and a coward?

Snico,I have given as much info about the truth and even posted links for them to read but knobheads will never accept it for whatever reason

They are just keyboard warriors, they like to cause a reaction

You can guarantee they would not say it to someone face to face....they say they will, but it wouldnt happen.
 
Like I said earlier - I was at that game . I was actually in the turnstile when the shout came that the ground was full and the turnstiles were closed.
So- by my figuring- 'closed is closed '. The scousers outside should have accepted it- and then NO disaster would have happened. Simple as that.
They did not however accept it and were hammering away at the gate and climbing up the walls.
Now though- all the blame is being thrown at police, ambulance people, FA and uncle tom cobbley and all. .
Do you reds really think that the police and others you blame really wanted something like that to happen ?.
Do you not think that they will remember that evening for the rest of their lives ?.
Probably not- because you dont really care about anyone else- just yourselves -'as usual'.

I followed this on the news and in the documentary and can find no documentation that the turstiles was closed and looking at the Hillsborough independant panel on link
http://hillsborough.independent.gov.uk/repository/media/VID0002.html
Also on the BBC website report,key findings ...link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-19577033
The only gate which was opened and closed for a while was gate C ...if you read up on these websites you will learn alot...I did
If you see that later the instruction was given to open gate C again and that is where the problem lies....although the order was given to open it no contact was made to officers inside the ground that there was thousands coming in at once and that is when they was pushing to the front.
At the turnstiles fans who was climbing up above the walls to escape the crush,lord justice Taylors words not mine.
You really have it in for the scousers and will not accept the full inquiry or the bbc news exonerating those fans on that fateful day will you .
Just for the record Liverpool than like man utd now had a massive following from all over the uk...I remember in the 70s/80 lots of coaches going from yorkshire and even when I have been the odd times with a pal of mine there are still hundreds of coaches from all over the uk..but you still blame the scouse lads for some reason.

I think somewhere along the line we have got at cross purposes .

The place I was referring to was ay Wolves ground .
1975/76.
You Donkey

This is from your post
So- by my figuring- 'closed is closed '. The scousers outside should have accepted it- and then NO disaster would have happened. Simple as that

What disaster happened at wolves????
Elighten me

ok - I have no problem retracting that particular quotation.
No disaster happened at Wolves-- but it was a very unpleasant experience being there that evening .

However- let me tell you this -- In this country- anyone who is being prosecuted can elect a trial in any city he or she likes .
Defence Lawyers tell the accused to choose Liverpool.
Know why ?
Because the jury consists of a mix of decent law abiding people and the usual bunch of *****.
More chance of walking free in Liverpool than anywhere else in the country.
Off for my tea now - scouse and salmon pie . :LOL:
Retracting that quotation.........ffs we all know it was aimed at hillsborough,,if you are not sure here is the item you wrote again
Like I said earlier - I was at that game . I was actually in the turnstile when the shout came that the ground was full and the turnstiles were closed.
So- by my figuring- 'closed is closed '. The scousers outside should have accepted it- and then NO disaster would have happened. Simple as that.
They did not however accept it and were hammering away at the gate and climbing up the walls.
Now though- all the blame is being thrown at police, ambulance people, FA and uncle tom cobbley and all. .
Do you reds really think that the police and others you blame really wanted something like that to happen ?.
Do you not think that they will remember that evening for the rest of their lives ?.
Probably not- because you dont really care about anyone else- just yourselves -'as usual'.

Read it all again....it is ALL about hillsborough..
I thought from some of your comments you was telling lies,now I know you are...I doubt for one second that you was at any of those games especially at Hillsborough because if you was you would have had sympathy and the only reason you are saying you was there was to help with the mud slinging.
I am a great advocate of the truth and cannot stand liars like yourself , I summed you up when you said you read the s@n with Boris Johnson articles........FFS get a life.

You unfortunately- have a memory like a amoeba or- at best 'a selective memory'.
If you read my older posts you will see I was refering to wolves game.
However- on great reflection-- and after careful consideration- I have come to the conclusion that it could be any game at all which liverpool supporters/bullies/thugs attend.
So- you continue to cast the blame on others and feed your lustfull appetite for grief- it's the lifeblood of that particular part of England.
The poor unfortunate victims of Hillsborough were innocent people - out to enjoy a football match but unfortunate to have got caught up in front of a crowd of thugs who have no respect for conformity or rules.
The police did their best as did everyone else who played a part in the rescue operation -- but- when confronted by a plethora of wild animals it made their job impossible.
In my opinion the authorities have just thrown in the towel in order to end the long saga .
However- it's a big mistake- because all it has done is fuel up the antagonists to continue this sage for another 20 years or more.
My heart goes out to the people who have lost loved ones-- and my symathies go out to the sad people who continue to thrive on the attention that this judgement will bring.

Of course- the true villains of that moment- will never stand up and be counted . They will continue to shout loudest and often.

In the words of A CERTAIN CLEVER GUY FROM THE PAST- 'THE BIGGER THE OATHE- THE BIGGER THE LIE'.
It's about time they let it drop and let the people who have lost someone grieve in peace and move on.
 
Yeah, I know keyboard sheep agreeing with each other....if that peterplywood had of been at Hillsborough he would have known the truth and would have been a advocate of the truth but alarm bells started ringing when he quoted a Boris Johnson article from the s@n rag......then it confirmed he was telling lies....a s@n reader who can also use a keyboard......I thought it was impossible due to limited intelligence...and now he has a nodding sheep following him :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
 
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He is just a thick, uneducated idiot who trolls to get a reaction....all forums have them.

This is peterperfection
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Yeah, I know keyboard sheep agreeing with each other....if that peterplywood had of been at Hillsborough he would have known the truth and would have been a advocate of the truth but alarm bells started ringing when he quoted a Boris Johnson article from the s@n rag......then it confirmed he was telling lies....a s@n reader who can also use a keyboard......I thought it was impossible due to limited intelligence...and now he has a nodding sheep following him :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Bit like you and snido or is it psycho ?
Anyway- Boris got it spot on the first time .
Are you too thick to see he was under orders to issue his last statement. ?.
You are boring me totally . Now be a good little boy and go to bed and maybe ask snido to tell you a story . Maybe Heysel story ? Or go watch a good disaster movie Titanic maybe ? wasn't that based in Liverpool ? (for a short while).
 
OOh look. The ex copper with an attitude is back tonight with his insults.

What happened you lost your job? Thrown out for being an imbecile I'd reckon.
 
Like I said earlier - I was at that game . I was actually in the turnstile when the shout came that the ground was full and the turnstiles were closed.
So- by my figuring- 'closed is closed '. The scousers outside should have accepted it- and then NO disaster would have happened. Simple as that.
They did not however accept it and were hammering away at the gate and climbing up the walls.
Now though- all the blame is being thrown at police, ambulance people, FA and uncle tom cobbley and all. .
Do you reds really think that the police and others you blame really wanted something like that to happen ?.
Do you not think that they will remember that evening for the rest of their lives ?.
Probably not- because you dont really care about anyone else- just yourselves -'as usual'.

I followed this on the news and in the documentary and can find no documentation that the turstiles was closed and looking at the Hillsborough independant panel on link
http://hillsborough.independent.gov.uk/repository/media/VID0002.html
Also on the BBC website report,key findings ...link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-19577033
The only gate which was opened and closed for a while was gate C ...if you read up on these websites you will learn alot...I did
If you see that later the instruction was given to open gate C again and that is where the problem lies....although the order was given to open it no contact was made to officers inside the ground that there was thousands coming in at once and that is when they was pushing to the front.
At the turnstiles fans who was climbing up above the walls to escape the crush,lord justice Taylors words not mine.
You really have it in for the scousers and will not accept the full inquiry or the bbc news exonerating those fans on that fateful day will you .
Just for the record Liverpool than like man utd now had a massive following from all over the uk...I remember in the 70s/80 lots of coaches going from yorkshire and even when I have been the odd times with a pal of mine there are still hundreds of coaches from all over the uk..but you still blame the scouse lads for some reason.

I think somewhere along the line we have got at cross purposes .

The place I was referring to was ay Wolves ground .
1975/76.
You Donkey

This is from your post
So- by my figuring- 'closed is closed '. The scousers outside should have accepted it- and then NO disaster would have happened. Simple as that

What disaster happened at wolves????
Elighten me

ok - I have no problem retracting that particular quotation.
No disaster happened at Wolves-- but it was a very unpleasant experience being there that evening .

However- let me tell you this -- In this country- anyone who is being prosecuted can elect a trial in any city he or she likes .
Defence Lawyers tell the accused to choose Liverpool.
Know why ?
Because the jury consists of a mix of decent law abiding people and the usual bunch of *****.
More chance of walking free in Liverpool than anywhere else in the country.
Off for my tea now - scouse and salmon pie . :LOL:
Retracting that quotation.........ffs we all know it was aimed at hillsborough,,if you are not sure here is the item you wrote again
Like I said earlier - I was at that game . I was actually in the turnstile when the shout came that the ground was full and the turnstiles were closed.
So- by my figuring- 'closed is closed '. The scousers outside should have accepted it- and then NO disaster would have happened. Simple as that.
They did not however accept it and were hammering away at the gate and climbing up the walls.
Now though- all the blame is being thrown at police, ambulance people, FA and uncle tom cobbley and all. .
Do you reds really think that the police and others you blame really wanted something like that to happen ?.
Do you not think that they will remember that evening for the rest of their lives ?.
Probably not- because you dont really care about anyone else- just yourselves -'as usual'.

Read it all again....it is ALL about hillsborough..
I thought from some of your comments you was telling lies,now I know you are...I doubt for one second that you was at any of those games especially at Hillsborough because if you was you would have had sympathy and the only reason you are saying you was there was to help with the mud slinging.
I am a great advocate of the truth and cannot stand liars like yourself , I summed you up when you said you read the s@n with Boris Johnson articles........FFS get a life.

You unfortunately- have a memory like a amoeba or- at best 'a selective memory'.
If you read my older posts you will see I was refering to wolves game.
However- on great reflection-- and after careful consideration- I have come to the conclusion that it could be any game at all which liverpool supporters/bullies/thugs attend.
So- you continue to cast the blame on others and feed your lustfull appetite for grief- it's the lifeblood of that particular part of England.
The poor unfortunate victims of Hillsborough were innocent people - out to enjoy a football match but unfortunate to have got caught up in front of a crowd of thugs who have no respect for conformity or rules.
The police did their best as did everyone else who played a part in the rescue operation -- but- when confronted by a plethora of wild animals it made their job impossible.
In my opinion the authorities have just thrown in the towel in order to end the long saga .
However- it's a big mistake- because all it has done is fuel up the antagonists to continue this sage for another 20 years or more.
My heart goes out to the people who have lost loved ones-- and my symathies go out to the sad people who continue to thrive on the attention that this judgement will bring.

Of course- the true villains of that moment- will never stand up and be counted . They will continue to shout loudest and often.

In the words of A CERTAIN CLEVER GUY FROM THE PAST- 'THE BIGGER THE OATHE- THE BIGGER THE LIE'.
It's about time they let it drop and let the people who have lost someone grieve in peace and move on.

Quote "You unfortunately- have a memory like a amoeba or- at best 'a selective memory'" from yourself........do enlighten me why you post this....
Also a old saying " A good liar must have a good memory" and you maybe a good liar but you have not got a good memory.
You have been caught out lying again ,then you start the mud slinging again.....you really believe what the s@n prints dont you.
You say I continue to cast the blame on others??? not sure what that is about as I am not a Liverpool supporter and I was not at Hillsborough...
I prefer to put the blame where it lies,wherever that maybe and will not believe any lies from and rag you read.
Its the families who have continued this saga for over 20 years to get the truth out which you will not accept for whatever reason but just keep on with your bigoted views.
 
Yeah, I know keyboard sheep agreeing with each other....if that peterplywood had of been at Hillsborough he would have known the truth and would have been a advocate of the truth but alarm bells started ringing when he quoted a Boris Johnson article from the s@n rag......then it confirmed he was telling lies....a s@n reader who can also use a keyboard......I thought it was impossible due to limited intelligence...and now he has a nodding sheep following him :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Bit like you and snido or is it psycho ?
Anyway- Boris got it spot on the first time .
Are you too thick to see he was under orders to issue his last statement. ?.
You are boring me totally . Now be a good little boy and go to bed and maybe ask snido to tell you a story . Maybe Heysel story ? Or go watch a good disaster movie Titanic maybe ? wasn't that based in Liverpool ? (for a short while).

Getting touchy are we because people know you are just little man behind a keyboard.....do you have little man syndrome?

Titanic, based in Liverpool?........Nope it was never based in Liverpool, like i said....thick, uneducated idiot?
 
OOh look. The ex copper with an attitude is back tonight with his insults.

What happened you lost your job? Thrown out for being an imbecile I'd reckon.

Iv'e done a search on him He was in fact a traffic warden who has been on invalidy benefit since he was dismissed.
He even has a disabled driver badge on his free car.
He really was a traffic warden .
 
Yeah, I know keyboard sheep agreeing with each other....if that peterplywood had of been at Hillsborough he would have known the truth and would have been a advocate of the truth but alarm bells started ringing when he quoted a Boris Johnson article from the s@n rag......then it confirmed he was telling lies....a s@n reader who can also use a keyboard......I thought it was impossible due to limited intelligence...and now he has a nodding sheep following him :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Bit like you and snido or is it psycho ?
Anyway- Boris got it spot on the first time .
Are you too thick to see he was under orders to issue his last statement. ?.
You are boring me totally . Now be a good little boy and go to bed and maybe ask snido to tell you a story . Maybe Heysel story ? Or go watch a good disaster movie Titanic maybe ? wasn't that based in Liverpool ? (for a short while).

Getting touchy are we because people know you are just little man behind a keyboard.....do you have little man syndrome?

Titanic, based in Liverpool?........Nope it was never based in Liverpool, like i said....thick, uneducated idiot?

Was registered there . Donkey.
 
Like I said earlier - I was at that game . I was actually in the turnstile when the shout came that the ground was full and the turnstiles were closed.
So- by my figuring- 'closed is closed '. The scousers outside should have accepted it- and then NO disaster would have happened. Simple as that.
They did not however accept it and were hammering away at the gate and climbing up the walls.
Now though- all the blame is being thrown at police, ambulance people, FA and uncle tom cobbley and all. .
Do you reds really think that the police and others you blame really wanted something like that to happen ?.
Do you not think that they will remember that evening for the rest of their lives ?.
Probably not- because you dont really care about anyone else- just yourselves -'as usual'.

I followed this on the news and in the documentary and can find no documentation that the turstiles was closed and looking at the Hillsborough independant panel on link
http://hillsborough.independent.gov.uk/repository/media/VID0002.html
Also on the BBC website report,key findings ...link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-19577033
The only gate which was opened and closed for a while was gate C ...if you read up on these websites you will learn alot...I did
If you see that later the instruction was given to open gate C again and that is where the problem lies....although the order was given to open it no contact was made to officers inside the ground that there was thousands coming in at once and that is when they was pushing to the front.
At the turnstiles fans who was climbing up above the walls to escape the crush,lord justice Taylors words not mine.
You really have it in for the scousers and will not accept the full inquiry or the bbc news exonerating those fans on that fateful day will you .
Just for the record Liverpool than like man utd now had a massive following from all over the uk...I remember in the 70s/80 lots of coaches going from yorkshire and even when I have been the odd times with a pal of mine there are still hundreds of coaches from all over the uk..but you still blame the scouse lads for some reason.

I think somewhere along the line we have got at cross purposes .

The place I was referring to was ay Wolves ground .
1975/76.
You Donkey

This is from your post
So- by my figuring- 'closed is closed '. The scousers outside should have accepted it- and then NO disaster would have happened. Simple as that

What disaster happened at wolves????
Elighten me

ok - I have no problem retracting that particular quotation.
No disaster happened at Wolves-- but it was a very unpleasant experience being there that evening .

However- let me tell you this -- In this country- anyone who is being prosecuted can elect a trial in any city he or she likes .
Defence Lawyers tell the accused to choose Liverpool.
Know why ?
Because the jury consists of a mix of decent law abiding people and the usual bunch of *****.
More chance of walking free in Liverpool than anywhere else in the country.
Off for my tea now - scouse and salmon pie . :LOL:
Retracting that quotation.........ffs we all know it was aimed at hillsborough,,if you are not sure here is the item you wrote again
Like I said earlier - I was at that game . I was actually in the turnstile when the shout came that the ground was full and the turnstiles were closed.
So- by my figuring- 'closed is closed '. The scousers outside should have accepted it- and then NO disaster would have happened. Simple as that.
They did not however accept it and were hammering away at the gate and climbing up the walls.
Now though- all the blame is being thrown at police, ambulance people, FA and uncle tom cobbley and all. .
Do you reds really think that the police and others you blame really wanted something like that to happen ?.
Do you not think that they will remember that evening for the rest of their lives ?.
Probably not- because you dont really care about anyone else- just yourselves -'as usual'.

Read it all again....it is ALL about hillsborough..
I thought from some of your comments you was telling lies,now I know you are...I doubt for one second that you was at any of those games especially at Hillsborough because if you was you would have had sympathy and the only reason you are saying you was there was to help with the mud slinging.
I am a great advocate of the truth and cannot stand liars like yourself , I summed you up when you said you read the s@n with Boris Johnson articles........FFS get a life.

You unfortunately- have a memory like a amoeba or- at best 'a selective memory'.
If you read my older posts you will see I was refering to wolves game.
However- on great reflection-- and after careful consideration- I have come to the conclusion that it could be any game at all which liverpool supporters/bullies/thugs attend.
So- you continue to cast the blame on others and feed your lustfull appetite for grief- it's the lifeblood of that particular part of England.
The poor unfortunate victims of Hillsborough were innocent people - out to enjoy a football match but unfortunate to have got caught up in front of a crowd of thugs who have no respect for conformity or rules.
The police did their best as did everyone else who played a part in the rescue operation -- but- when confronted by a plethora of wild animals it made their job impossible.
In my opinion the authorities have just thrown in the towel in order to end the long saga .
However- it's a big mistake- because all it has done is fuel up the antagonists to continue this sage for another 20 years or more.
My heart goes out to the people who have lost loved ones-- and my symathies go out to the sad people who continue to thrive on the attention that this judgement will bring.

Of course- the true villains of that moment- will never stand up and be counted . They will continue to shout loudest and often.

In the words of A CERTAIN CLEVER GUY FROM THE PAST- 'THE BIGGER THE OATHE- THE BIGGER THE LIE'.
It's about time they let it drop and let the people who have lost someone grieve in peace and move on.

Quote "You unfortunately- have a memory like a amoeba or- at best 'a selective memory'" from yourself........do enlighten me why you post this....
Also a old saying " A good liar must have a good memory" and you maybe a good liar but you have not got a good memory.
You have been caught out lying again ,then you start the mud slinging again.....you really believe what the s@n prints dont you.
You say I continue to cast the blame on others??? not sure what that is about as I am not a Liverpool supporter and I was not at Hillsborough...
I prefer to put the blame where it lies,wherever that maybe and will not believe any lies from and rag you read.
Its the families who have continued this saga for over 20 years to get the truth out which you will not accept for whatever reason but just keep on with your bigoted views.

Stop using the quote button.
 
Yeah, I know keyboard sheep agreeing with each other....if that peterplywood had of been at Hillsborough he would have known the truth and would have been a advocate of the truth but alarm bells started ringing when he quoted a Boris Johnson article from the s@n rag......then it confirmed he was telling lies....a s@n reader who can also use a keyboard......I thought it was impossible due to limited intelligence...and now he has a nodding sheep following him :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Bit like you and snido or is it psycho ?
Anyway- Boris got it spot on the first time .
Are you too thick to see he was under orders to issue his last statement. ?.
You are boring me totally . Now be a good little boy and go to bed and maybe ask snido to tell you a story . Maybe Heysel story ? Or go watch a good disaster movie Titanic maybe ? wasn't that based in Liverpool ? (for a short while).

Oh no peter penis has got it WRONG again......how the flook was the titanic based in Liverpool, it was only registered there but the film was at sea....or is there another lie coming up
 
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