EU make offer to reduce 80% of post Brexit checks at NI border

[Captain Nemesis]

At the end of the day, this is not a caricature, its reality

And it is something that has been known about all along.

Therefore the problems were having now have been foreseeable all along.

Therefore the problems we are having right now are what Leave voters voted for, and wanted, especially all those who refused to countenance an opportunity to stop and think again, especially all those who shouted for a hard Brexit, especially all those who just wanted "to get Brexit done".

Leave won. They got what they wanted. It really is past time for them to stop moaning about that.

 

[Vinty]

Because NI does not want to have a border, and border controls, between it and the EU

That is ******.
The Republic of Ireland does not want border controls at the UK border with the EU.

 

[Captain Nemesis]

So NI does?

By what margin?

Talking of political acuity, hows this working out for you?

I see we've been reminded of the USA's views on the GFA.
No GFA no US deal

Only if Trump loses the U.S. election, if the Dumocrats win then America is finished as a democratic nation.

 

[Vinty]

the land border option wasnt practical, you know that.

if we had stayed in the SM and CU there would be no border

There has always been a land border and customs checks.
You are in denial, the reason there is no checks at the real border is because the Republic of Ireland has used the threat of violence to force the UK government to retreat to the Irish sea.
The Irish republic and the EU now have free access to UK sovereign territory without any checks whatsoever.

 

[Vinty]

Are your standards of personal honesty and trustworthiness, and the standards you would like the UK to measure up to, so low that you think reneging on agreements we sign is OK

The UK reneged on the Munich agreement.
Agreements are reneged on all the time.
Time already for Boris Johnson to invoke article 16 and tell the EU to feck off.

 

[ellal]

Time already for Boris Johnson to invoke article 16 and tell the EU to feck off.

And the guns and the bombs will be rolled out again...

But you didn't answer the question I posed...

Are you one of those who believes that the return of violence to N.I. is a 'price worth paying' for brexit?

Yes or no?

 

[Vinty]

the return of violence to N.I.

Where is the threat of violence coming from?


The British government hasn't threatened violence as far as i am aware.

If the UK government carries out customs checks on the UK /EU border in N. I., what do you think would happen.

 

[fillyboy]

Time already for Boris Johnson to invoke article 16 and tell the EU to feck off.

And give Macron a slap across the chops for good measure.

 

[ajohn]

The British government hasn't threatened violence as far as i am aware

You don't think sending the army in once doesn't relate to violence?

Fact of life - no boarder between N and S Ireland is also enshrined in international law and it wasn't just the UK that achieved that.

 

[Vinty]

You don't think sending the army in once doesn't relate to violence

No more than sending a policeman in to arrest somone who is trying to burn your house down.

 

[Vinty]

Fact of life - no boarder between N and S Ireland is also enshrined in international law and it wasn't just the UK that achieved that

Who told you that.

 

[Vinty]

And the guns and the bombs will be rolled out again

By Whom?

 

[Vinty]

 

[noseall]

Time already for Boris Johnson to invoke article 16 and tell the EU to feck off.

I wonder what's taking him so long?

 

[Captain Nemesis]

Where is the threat of violence coming from?

Where is your belief that you can evade a question like that coming from?

Whether it has, or has not, been "threatened" by anybody is irrelevant, as the question wasnt about that.

Are you one of those who believes that the return of violence to N.I. is a 'price worth paying' for brexit?

Yes or no?