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Because God tends to be seen as a conscious entity with intent (that has chats with priests etc), the universe never began and will never end (such concepts are born from our subjective experience of life), it is in a continuous state of change and always will be. I guess you could say that the universe is "God" but that it is without consciousness or design (and doesn't chat to priests)
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It's the same energy source. A universe that always existed is not understood by humans. We don't understand eternity any more than a dog understands the notion of tomorrow. God doesn't need to be a Father Christmas figure - just the power/energy in the Universe that has always and will always be there (where else would it go). Get away from the father Christmas figure and accept that we are finite beings that will NEVER understand infinity/eternity.
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Can't give specific details (I wasn't there), but as I understand it, its to do with the laws of physics demands that it happens.
Because the evidence points to about 14billion(ish) years ago.
It would be incorrect to call the event God, as there is no consciousness to the event. Obeying the laws of physics needs no God.
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There is no law of physics that demands nothing to become something. Nothing is nothing and something is something.
Only something acting upon that nothing can make it become a something. Let's call that something God and be done with it.
You will never understand the why as you will never understand infinity.
Give your brain (and Google) a rest.
Only something acting upon that nothing can make it become a something. Let's call that something God and be done with it.
You will never understand the why as you will never understand infinity.
Give your brain (and Google) a rest.
A hundred years ago there were numskulls who said the atom would never be split. Now we still have numskulls saying we will never understand how this and that works. In one hundred years time, when we have solved lots of problems that were beyond our capability today. there will be numskulls telling us that we will never understand how something else works.
You get leaders and followers. You get brilliant scientists who never give up trying, and you get numskulls on websites like this who never give trying to put them down.
And as for the religious fruit cakes, we will have solved every problem there is to solve, and there will be people telling us that it was all done supernaturally by some God who is somehow beyond the laws of physics.
When I could be bothered, I would ask them 'could god make a rock that was too heavy for god to pick up'. That would flummox them, until they found a religious fruit cake book that taught them how to twist the question, which is exactly what they came back and did.
You get leaders and followers. You get brilliant scientists who never give up trying, and you get numskulls on websites like this who never give trying to put them down.
And as for the religious fruit cakes, we will have solved every problem there is to solve, and there will be people telling us that it was all done supernaturally by some God who is somehow beyond the laws of physics.
When I could be bothered, I would ask them 'could god make a rock that was too heavy for god to pick up'. That would flummox them, until they found a religious fruit cake book that taught them how to twist the question, which is exactly what they came back and did.
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They still can't make up their mind what the atom actually is.
Will dogs one day understand the concept of 'next week'? No, it is beyond their capability.
Will humans understand eternity - no it's beyond their capability. Get over it.
Will dogs one day understand the concept of 'next week'? No, it is beyond their capability.
Will humans understand eternity - no it's beyond their capability. Get over it.
But if there is something to act on the "nothing" then that something means there isn't a nothing, there is a something - that something would be the universe before the universe as we "know" it.
The evidence we see which gives us an idea of the age of the universe is from the observable universe, we can't see what we can't see so until we expand our ability we will always be limited to a small corner of an infinite universe. We've gone from thinking the world was flat, to the sun revolving around the earth, to the earth revolving around the sun, galaxy, universe, big bang and now as we find more evidence the big bang looks less likely (more likely it was something isolated in a much bigger universe) - all in a few hundred years, not bad going.
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That's simple observation. If the universe is expanding - what is it expanding into? Why did it suddenly start expanding 13.77 billion years ago? Where did the energy behind the expansion come from? I know - it was God.
May I just point out that whoever started this thread (sorry, I can't be bothered to look) chose and excellent subject for us to argue about.
No-one can prove that there is a God. There is no evidence.
No-one can prove that there isn't a God. There is no evidence to prove that either!
All we can argue about is opinions. There is no indisputable evidence either way.
Edit: No, I couldn't resist it. It was Pred. And it was worth the look for the excellent joke!
No-one can prove that there is a God. There is no evidence.
No-one can prove that there isn't a God. There is no evidence to prove that either!
All we can argue about is opinions. There is no indisputable evidence either way.
Edit: No, I couldn't resist it. It was Pred. And it was worth the look for the excellent joke!
joinerjohn";p="2697498 said:
Hmmm The human race is actually around 4" taller on average now than they were a couple of hundred years ago. Why is this then ? Surely something is driving this change? Is this evolution in action? Could be there's some benefit to the human race to be taller.
may be in this country there diet was different at that time, are diets are better , other than fast foods, better living and sanatory, helps us live longer
i climber who goes to everest has to acclimatise to altitude, a marrathone you have to train your body. but we still got same two lungs, legs,ears ect
there is not a dimple of a change. evident.
All you are demonstrating, breadnbutter, is that you are remarkably poorly informed.
The information is out there, but your fingers will stay firmly stuck in your ears until you turn up to some fruitcase house on a sunday, when you will pull them out just for long enough for the BS to be topped up.
The information is out there, but your fingers will stay firmly stuck in your ears until you turn up to some fruitcase house on a sunday, when you will pull them out just for long enough for the BS to be topped up.
There's no such thing as 'nothing' even a vacuum has quantum fluctuations, particles appearing and annihilating each other within an instant.
According to inflation theory it was one of these which might started the whole shebang, one famous quote reads "The universe is the ultimate free lunch". Do a google on that one.
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