Excess Deaths Debate 16th January 2024

[carmanmemoranda]

A great number of people knocking about that that has been the case.

Those that died just unlucky then?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Did they?

I'm sure he has the figures, properly established figures

 

[IT Minion]

During the pandemic the gov were at the lecterns - was it every day giving out the death figures but now with the massive excess death figures possibly worse than the pandemic - no lecterns.

They aren't anywhere near as bad, so no, they aren't.

 

[aveatry]

This whole UK death numbers anyway the gov used deaths within 28 days of a positive test so including people ran over by a bus - they used the 28 days to stack the death numbers to scare people into compliance with lock downs buts its now come to bite them on the bum as tory haters are using the figure to say the tories killed 70,000 people. But the gov can not back track on their metric that the nudge unit came up with.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

During the pandemic the gov were at the lecterns - was it every day giving out the death figures but now with the massive excess death figures possibly worse than the pandemic - no lecterns.

Blame your Government then

 

[carmanmemoranda]

This whole UK death numbers anyway the gov used deaths within 28 days of a positive test so including people ran over by a bus - they used the 28 days to stack the death numbers to scare people into compliance with lock downs buts its now come to bite them on the bum as tory haters are using the figure to say the tories killed 70,000 people. But the gov can not back track on their metric that the nudge unit came up with.

Conspiracy theory nonsense.

You are saying doctors lied on death certificates?

 

[denso13]

Who funds the lancet, you still believe in all these facts and figures after all this time.

Where do you get your info that you trust, C'mon, for once explain yourself.

 

[denso13]

This whole UK death numbers anyway the gov used deaths within 28 days of a positive test so including people ran over by a bus

They used figures of deaths with covid and deaths because of covid. they counted death certificates which with certified by doctors to the best of their ability.

I don't think doctors were whole scale lying.

 

[IT Minion]

This whole UK death numbers anyway the gov used deaths within 28 days of a positive test so including people ran over by a bus - they used the 28 days to stack the death numbers to scare people into compliance with lock downs buts its now come to bite them on the bum as tory haters are using the figure to say the tories killed 70,000 people. But the gov can not back track on their metric that the nudge unit came up with.

That's not the same as excess deaths. They're completely different metrics.

 

[denso13]

that the nudge unit came up with

You are just doing a Gnat and "saying stuff". I don't believe you.

 

[gant]

I don't think doctors were whole scale lying.

Good boy, them at Fujitsu had post masters interests at heart as well.

 

[gant]

You are just doing a Gnat and "saying stuff". I don't believe you.

No surprise there then having nailed your colours to the mast.

 

[denso13]

No surprise there then having nailed your colours to the mast.

Where do you get you info that you trust?

 

[denso13]

Good boy, them at Fujitsu had post masters interests at heart as well.

So you think doctors lied on death certificates? Or not?

 

[aveatry]

Conspiracy theory nonsense.

You are saying doctors lied on death certificates?

Which bit is a conspiracy - to anyone at the time using deaths within 28 days of a positive test was clearly to make the covid deaths look higher than they were. Actual deaths from covid not just "with" covid would of been much lower.
Of course doctors were not ling - where did you get that from in my post. They were instructed how death certificates should be filled in so they were doing as they were told.
Not every patient who is suspected of dying from COVID-19 has been positively tested. A test is not required in order for COVID-19 to be determined as a cause of death. A doctor who has not seen the patient can sign the certificate relying on their knowledge and belief of the cause of death, including cases where the person showed symptoms of COVID-19.