Excess Deaths Debate 16th January 2024

How have you arrived at that conclusion?

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There was some faulty reporting in care homes at time early on. They came from GP's who didn't want to visit. However the terms used for the reasons for the deaths will have reduced the number of covid deaths not increased them
That’s the wrong way around! Absolute nonsense
 
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Proof ? Or just your opinion
"Between 2 March and 12 June 2020, 18,562 residents of care homes in England died with COVID-19,including 18,168 people aged 65 and over, representing almost 40% of all deaths involving COVID-19 in England during this period.2 Of these deaths, 13,844 (76%) happened in care homes themselves; nearly all of the remainder occurred in a hospital.3 During the same period, 28,186 “excess deaths” were recorded in care homes in England, representing a 46% increase compared with the same period in previous years. excess deaths likely include undiagnosed COVID-19 deaths, and underscore the broader impact of the pandemic on older people in care homes.5"

 
"Between 2 March and 12 June 2020, 18,562 residents of care homes in England died with COVID-19,including 18,168 people aged 65 and over, representing almost 40% of all deaths involving COVID-19 in England during this period.2 Of these deaths, 13,844 (76%) happened in care homes themselves; nearly all of the remainder occurred in a hospital.3 During the same period, 28,186 “excess deaths” were recorded in care homes in England, representing a 46% increase compared with the same period in previous years. excess deaths likely include undiagnosed COVID-19 deaths, and underscore the broader impact of the pandemic on older people in care homes.5"

At a quick glance you’ve proved my point
 
"Between 2 March and 12 June 2020, 18,562 residents of care homes in England died with COVID-19,including 18,168 people aged 65 and over, representing almost 40% of all deaths involving COVID-19 in England during this period.2 Of these deaths, 13,844 (76%) happened in care homes themselves; nearly all of the remainder occurred in a hospital.3 During the same period, 28,186 “excess deaths” were recorded in care homes in England, representing a 46% increase compared with the same period in previous years. excess deaths likely include undiagnosed COVID-19 deaths, and underscore the broader impact of the pandemic on older people in care homes.5"

NWGS is not interested in facts
 
There was some faulty reporting in care homes at time early on. They came from GP's who didn't want to visit. However the terms used for the reasons for the deaths will have reduced the number of covid deaths not increased them
The above is stating Covid deaths in care homes were under reported.

Looks like @denso13 proved me right. Covid deaths in care homes, if anything was over reported.

Gobshite, please don’t butt in to a conversation.
 
You’ll have to point out the exact bit that does that?
Sigh.

There were 13,844 covid deaths recorded in care homes, but there were 28,186 excess deaths recorded in care homes.

"Excess deaths likely include undiagnosed COVID-19 deaths". Undiagnosed meaning they were never diagnosed as covid and were included in the excess deaths but not covid deaths.

If they had been diagnosed as covid deaths then that figure would have been higher. Ergo, the covid death number was underreported.
 
So just a guess then ?

No actual proof ?

None of the deaths were due to not having access to a doctor or not being allowed antibiotics?

That’s almost as good as your proof about ancient drilling techniques!! His wife was a cook lol.
 
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