Once again: look at that video through Muslim eyes and tell me what you think it says about western women?
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What is a Muslim point of view? I would think that out of the billions of them on this planet, a few will have differing ideals and morals, maybe even the same as some of mine.
So what your saying odds, Muslim men can't control themselves therefore shouldn't be allowed in the country. Never mind single men banged up in one place under the age of 30 in numbers of 200 or more free to come and go as they please. Think you might have hit on why the people of knowsley might have been protesting.
Some Muslim men would look at that and question the morals and flexible approach to sexual relations of western women - particularly orthodox muslims. And there's plenty of white men who'd agree with them. Of course i'm not saying 'all muslim men are like that' but if a girl was propositioned on the street by a muslim frsh off the boat, he may've had a distorted viewpoint of English gals.
Were the good people of Knowsley protesting about the blatant disregard for the virtue of one of their daughters?
Were the good people of Knowsley protesting about the blatant disregard for the virtue of one of their daughters?
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They was protesting because there's a school near there and the residents of the hotel spent time watching the kids through the railings.
If that's the case then a cultural misunderstanding is inevitable. I'm not sure they'd see anything untoward about watching children play - in this country, however, there's been too many sad stories regarding 'men' who do such things. Someone from Syria would be unaware of this attitude - and no, i'm not saying such things don't happen in the Middle East, as far as i'm aware they don't have a culture of fear where people can be persecuted because they've taken photos of their own children or mobs are formed who don't know the difference between a pediatrician and a pedo...
I didn't think it would take long before the whataboutry approach was taken.
The defining distinction is young men whose background is yet to be determined. Some allegedly from war torn countries where savagery might be second nature and women are treated as second class citizens, banged up in hotels free to roam. If that's not a cause for concern then I'm not sure what is.
The defining distinction is young men whose background is yet to be determined. Some allegedly from war torn countries where savagery might be second nature and women are treated as second class citizens, banged up in hotels free to roam. If that's not a cause for concern then I'm not sure what is.
That some women will use their allure for their own benefit or gain?
A strategy not limited to "western women", and as old as time itself?
Or do you have a differing view?
Look at the way they dress and tell me how would a muslim interpret such 'provocative' behaviour.
My personal opinion is not the issue here.
"Whataboutery" my eye - you've been down town on a sat'day night? It's a ****ing meat market.
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So because a young lady wears a short dress she’s fair game ?
Oh, it very much is.
You're giving a personal opinion on muslims' interpretation of "western women"s' behaviour (that it is "provocative", and that they can be viewed as "easy" - your words).
If a Muslim did approach the girl and make an indecent proposal he would be in violation of hisown religious code:
172 – Rule: Men are allowed to speak to non-Mahram women as long as the following two conditions are met:
It is not with the intention of lust.
The speaking does not lead either one of them to commit a sin.
Note and warning: Sometimes, it can be seen that in the hearts of men, the devil has become so firm that many of their social gatherings are doubtful, and it can be seen that a man has more interest in mingling with non-Mahram women than with his own Maharim. For example, there is a situation in which he can ask something from a man, but instead, he asks a non-Mahram woman; sometimes his conversation with non-Mahram women is prolonged so as to be able to talk with them more; going to places of amusement and on vacations with non-Mahram women is more attracting to him; if there is a place where there are non-Mahram women, he desires to be there more than other places; and when guests come over, he tries to talk and socialize more with the non-Mahram women than the men. He likes to stay in the presence of non-Mahram women more so than anywhere else. In summary, he likes any action that non-Mahram women are participating in more than any other work.
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Either he was unaware of this moral restriction or forgot about it 'in the heat of the moment'.
Since the girl hasn't made any statement on the matter we remain ignorant of the facts of this matter and i'll remind anyone prepared to place blame either way that the murder of Emmitt Till in 1955 was committed upon the word of a white woman who, many years later, admitted she wasn't sure it was him.
172 – Rule: Men are allowed to speak to non-Mahram women as long as the following two conditions are met:
It is not with the intention of lust.
The speaking does not lead either one of them to commit a sin.
Note and warning: Sometimes, it can be seen that in the hearts of men, the devil has become so firm that many of their social gatherings are doubtful, and it can be seen that a man has more interest in mingling with non-Mahram women than with his own Maharim. For example, there is a situation in which he can ask something from a man, but instead, he asks a non-Mahram woman; sometimes his conversation with non-Mahram women is prolonged so as to be able to talk with them more; going to places of amusement and on vacations with non-Mahram women is more attracting to him; if there is a place where there are non-Mahram women, he desires to be there more than other places; and when guests come over, he tries to talk and socialize more with the non-Mahram women than the men. He likes to stay in the presence of non-Mahram women more so than anywhere else. In summary, he likes any action that non-Mahram women are participating in more than any other work.
@Al-Islam.org
Either he was unaware of this moral restriction or forgot about it 'in the heat of the moment'.
Since the girl hasn't made any statement on the matter we remain ignorant of the facts of this matter and i'll remind anyone prepared to place blame either way that the murder of Emmitt Till in 1955 was committed upon the word of a white woman who, many years later, admitted she wasn't sure it was him.
You do know that most women dress to impress other women, don't you?
You do talk a lot o' sh!te sometimes.
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