LOL I think that is a bit extreme as they have misguided good intentions
Fossil fuel / climate protestors
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I was actually being sarcastic, Andy. In a civilised, democratic society everyone has the right to disagree, to protest the decisions of government, especially if that government is acting against the well being of the nation and its' people. Many people who involve themselves in peaceful protest actually do have jobs (for example, when I marched to protest the Poll Tax years ago I had a job, so did most of my fellow protesters), but feel the need to protest the decisions of government - especially when government doesn't want to listen (recent example: fracking).
Meanwhile, the police already have a lot of powers to deal with protesters, but they always want more. And some more extreme poloticians. Why is that?
However, saying that people with a different point of view to yours own should be "duffed up" verges on the mindset of a fascist. Where does this end? Do I have the right to kill someone who I disagree with. Surely any decent, humane, sensible person would say "No, of course not."?
Meanwhile, the police already have a lot of powers to deal with protesters, but they always want more. And some more extreme poloticians. Why is that?
However, saying that people with a different point of view to yours own should be "duffed up" verges on the mindset of a fascist. Where does this end? Do I have the right to kill someone who I disagree with. Surely any decent, humane, sensible person would say "No, of course not."?
A legal person went through the new bill in this respect. His conclusion is that in most respects the police already have the powers which doesn't leave much at all in terms of increases.
The poly view - well we have to appear to do something.
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Would that be the Black Belt Barrister by any chance?
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Dunno what these protestor fruit cakes hope to achieve ?
To make people aware of climate change ??
Well er pretty certain every one is aware of this it’s been main stream news for the last what ? 20 years ??
Mind you having said that there may well be a few fruit cakes who are totally un aware of the issue
Noseall and the ignored member may not be aware
No surprise tbh
To make people aware of climate change ??
Well er pretty certain every one is aware of this it’s been main stream news for the last what ? 20 years ??
Mind you having said that there may well be a few fruit cakes who are totally un aware of the issue
Noseall and the ignored member may not be aware
No surprise tbh
Obviously you don't know what their message is, but you still criticise them.Dunno what these protestor fruit cakes hope to achieve ?
To make people aware of climate change ??
Well er pretty certain every one is aware of this it’s been main stream news for the last what ? 20 years ??
Mind you having said that there may well be a few fruit cakes who are totally un aware of the issue
Noseall and the ignored member may not be aware
No surprise tbh
No surprise tbh
Their message is not to make people aware of the climate change risk, as you assume.
It's to urge greater and more urgent action to address the issue.
Went past some protest camp today
It’s at stone henge
Dunno what they are protesting about tbh
Some road works ? They have been there for ages a sort of full time camp
Probably all bombed out of there eads but they don’t appear to be causing hassle
Even some notice on a tree about popping in for a cup of tea and a chat
It’s at stone henge
Dunno what they are protesting about tbh
Some road works ? They have been there for ages a sort of full time camp
Probably all bombed out of there eads but they don’t appear to be causing hassle
Even some notice on a tree about popping in for a cup of tea and a chat
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It seems to me these people ARE fruit cakey. They assert that their view is important enough to restrict someone else's liberty, to use the road or whatever.
Restriction of an individual's liberties is not for an individual, it's a state function.
Their way lies sedition, anarchy, chaos.
So I would vote that the protesters are locked away until they see the error of their ways.
Any infrastructure interruption, direct or indirect, 2 years inside.
Restriction of an individual's liberties is not for an individual, it's a state function.
Their way lies sedition, anarchy, chaos.
So I would vote that the protesters are locked away until they see the error of their ways.
Any infrastructure interruption, direct or indirect, 2 years inside.
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have you a link to the two so as I can go back and giv em a like
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They over rate appearances in the media etc. That's their aim - to get into the news.
One of the tenets of early terrorism was that the population would eventually blame their government. Maybe they have similar thoughts.
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Everyone has the right to protest, but the police choose to clamp down on some protests and turn a blind eye to others. Repeated climate change protests are allowed to go on for days at a time but anti-vaccine protests are quickly ended. Violent, police-attacking and statue-toppling Black Lives Matter and anti-slavery protests and black shoplifting protests are allowed to run their course whilst being watched benignly by the police but anything involving Tommy Robinson is stopped, with great force, before it can even get started.
Whilst we have the right to protest, I'm sure you'll agree J&K that that protest should not harm anybody, and that if harm is caused or threatened it should be prevented / stopped. I am sure you protested peacefully and avoided any violent activity.
No civilised person wants anyone to be literally and summarily "duffed up", but Transam is using the term in a metaphorical sense. The "duffing up" can be a fine or a caution but should be whatever is necessary to restore order - be it more robust. The statue topplers should have been physically restrained and climate change road blockers bodily shifted out of the way, glued or not.
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the statue toppilers should have been deported and the road blockers knighted.
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How you see it depends on what side of the money you're on. There is over-complication in everything the government is involved with nowadays. I was reading about how the civil service has grown over the years since WW1; I can't remember the exact figures but there are now millions working in the public sector where back then the number was in the hundreds. All these millions have to be paid for, all those millions have to justify their jobs, and explain how the little man wouldn't understand all the ins-and-outs. Fill this form, tick this box, wait six weeks, have an inspection, wait whilst so-and-so is off with covid etc etc etc.
We are slaves to the state and its paper shufflers.
The population has increased substantially since WW1, Andy. You'd imagine the number of people working in the Civil Service would also increase to cope with the workload, no?
Welcome to the 21st century.
You not think its all a bit contrived these protests closing roads and pouring milk away etc etc. All offences in their own right that could be acted upon. When the public are suitably enraged they won't mind a few more laws being brought in to curtail their freedoms as long as it deals with those pesky demonstrators eh.
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