Nah. I consider those that live in Enfield Northerners.They have the north-south border about right.
Nah. I consider those that live in Enfield Northerners.They have the north-south border about right.
That would make Stoke-on-Trent the end of the world, then?Nah. I consider those that live in Enfield Northerners.
Practically off the edge!That would make Stoke-on-Trent the end of the world, then?
That would make Stoke-on-Trent the end of the world, then?
Yeah I can't see any other European country giving leaving the EU a go tbh, there far to intertwined, and they've seen the cock up we've made of it, and that the EU is run by adults, and when you take them away you suddenly realise you've elected the village idiots into power.
I said using DNA from modern populations to trace deep ancestry is flawed.Your understanding of maths and DNA is at fault.
Your model relies on one parent with a low percentage of Germanic DNA reproducing with another of little or no Germanic DNA.
If your GGGGGgrand parents had 100% Germanic DNA, your GGGGgrand parents will also have 100% Germanic DNA, not 50% as your model shows.
But DNA inheritance doesn't work like that.
It's hapazard and random.
Concepts – Calculating Ethnicity Percentages
There has been a lot of discussion about ethnicity percentages within the genetic genealogy community recently, probably because of the number of people who have recently purchased DNA tests to dis…dna-explained.com
But DNA inheritance doesn't work like that.
It's hapazard and random.
You are welcome to your opinion, but it's refuted by experts.I said using DNA from modern populations to trace deep ancestry is flawed.
Ancient genomes reveal that the English are one third Anglo-Saxon
For the first time, researchers have been able to directly estimate the Anglo-Saxon ancestry of the British population from ancient skeletons, showing how Anglo-Saxon immigrants mixed with the native populationwww.sanger.ac.uk
Ancient genomes reveal that the English are one third Anglo-Saxon
Which completely agrees with my original comment.The people we call Anglo-Saxons were actually immigrants from northern Germany and southern Scandinavia.
So we've spent 4 pages, for you to finally agree with me.Inside every Brit is a German trying to get out.
Genetic study reveals 30% of white British DNA has German ancestry
...with most white British people now owing almost 30% of their DNA to the ancestors of modern-day Germans.
Genetic study reveals 30% of white British DNA has German ancestry
Analysis over 20 years reveals heavy Anglo-Saxon influence, with French and Danish DNA coming from earlier migrations than the Normans or Vikingswww.theguardian.com
Don't fall into the mind frame of Vinty.So what is the point then?
Apart from lining the coffers of Ancestry.com, that is.
Didn't you read the link?You are welcome to your opinion, but it's refuted by experts.
As far as your posted link is concerned.
Ancient genomes reveal that the English are one third Anglo-Saxon
For the first time, researchers have been able to directly estimate the Anglo-Saxon ancestry of the British population from ancient skeletons, showing how Anglo-Saxon immigrants mixed with the native populationwww.sanger.ac.uk
Where do you think Anglo Saxons originated from?
Which completely agrees with my original comment.
So we've spent 4 pages, for you to finally agree with me.
I don't dispute that Britons have an Anglo Saxon heritage, i dispute your claim thatDon't fall into the mind frame of Vinty.
Ancestry.com et al deal with named amcestors and direct lineage.
DNA ro trace origins of ancestors is a differnt field of research, and more anthropological than familial lineage.
What nationality do you call people who, a thousand years ago, used to live in what is now Germany?I don't dispute that Britons have an Anglo Saxon heritage, i dispute your claim that
that British people are genetically 30% German.
What these Ancestry. com companies don't tell is that even identical twins can get different ancestry percentages from the same company.So what is the point then?
Apart from lining the coffers of Ancestry.com, that is.
Don't fall into the mind frame of Vinty.
You are still not reading the original link:Didn't you read the link?
Your original post claimed the British people were of 30% 'German' ancestry.
The link shows that the Anglo Saxons were more closely related to modern day Danish and Dutch populations, there is no mention of Germans.
Unlike most studies which use DNA samples from modern populations, the study i quoted was based on DNA samples from the remains of actual Angles and Saxons.
most white British people now owing almost 30% of their DNA to the ancestors of modern-day Germans.
Where did the Anglo-Saxons come from?
The people we call Anglo-Saxons were actually immigrants from northern Germany and southern Scandinavia.
... the Angles, Saxons and Jutes. There were probably many other peoples who set out for Britain in the early fifth century,