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[Deleted member 221031]

Thanks to right wingers.

Right wingers are hardly likely to be “pro trans” are they ? The opposite in fact.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Considered by you.

It's really quite obvious. If transwomen are allowed to use women's toilets, but they don't have a GRC, they may still have the label of Male on their birth certificate. But because they are transwomen and they choose to use the women's toilets, then it stands to reason that those toilets are single gender spaces.

 

[charliegolf]

mods, PLEASE.

 

[Deleted member 221031]

It's really quite obvious. If transwomen are allowed to use women's toilets, but they don't have a GRC, they may still have the label of Male on their birth certificate. But because they are transwomen and they choose to use the women's toilets, then it stands to reason that those toilets are single gender spaces.

That makes no sense. Your ramblings are now embarrassing. What are you even trying to say ?

 

[Roy Bloom]

You chose to hide the vital point, in order to place your own emphasis, and your own interpretation of what you would have liked it to say (but doesn't)

Don't be silly. I posted the 4th paragraph in totality.
I also provided the link to the wen=b sitre so that anyone could check that I had posted the content without alteration, or emphasis on a single word.
Whereas you placed a heavy emphasis on a single word, and pretended that word referred to something else.
The artcle states that the law does not provide a definition of transwomen. As I've already pointed out, that's a pointless issue on which to base your argument.

I've also dealt with the possibility og biologocal males not being allowed acces to a female sex only space.
It's just like any other equalities rule, there are times and occasions when the biological sex of the person over-rides the equality law.
But simply being a transwomen is not sufficient basis to exclude a transwoman. As you carefully worded it, a trans women without a GRC may be excluded.
I can'imagine a scenario that a transwoman with a GRC could be excluded from a single sex/gender space.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Very helpfully, Roy's article goes on to say:

"If a trans woman who doesn’t have a GRC wants to access a female-only space, and is refused access, that’s not discrimination on grounds of gender reassignment, but discrimination on grounds of sex. She’s refused access not because she’s trans, but because she’s both legally and biologically male. That means she can lawfully be refused access any time it’s lawful at all to have a female-only space"

As I said, occasionally a space can be defined so that it over-rides the Equlaities Act.
Women's toilets do not normally qualify for soingle SEX spaces, but they would qualify as single gender spaces.
Therefore any attempt to prevent a transwoman using a women's toilet, based solely on the fact that they are a transgender person woulod be considered as discrimination.

 

[Roy Bloom]

If Transtype behavior becomes accepted, the numbers could rise exponentially as all types of perverts could jump on the bandwagon.

As society accepts that the role defined at birth, by the sex label allocated, does not always mean that the person will be content to be defined by that role, there may well be a rise in people undergoing the trans gender process.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Are you having memory problems?

Transexuality

I've never been a fan of yours John, we both know that, politically we're diametrically opposed and I question your bias as a moderator. But, credit where credits due, your s**t hot on the gender crap. (y) (y)

www.diynot.com

Let me repeat the words for you, because you like the words to be repeated.
The law recognises a man as a woman, who has been living as a woman without any gender affriming surgery, without any medical treatment, and without any changes to any legal documents for at least 2 years. It's a pre-requisite for applying for a GRC.

 

[Roy Bloom]

It is a term of abuse used by transactivists in an attempt to diminish women who do not agree that a man is a woman.

Persistently posting pointless slogans is abuse as well.
You don't believe that transgender people have a right to live in their chosen gender. And you campaign vigorously to deny their existnece.

 

[Roy Bloom]

This is correct and the reverse could be unlawful

There are exceptions for the equalities act.
But the default position would be in line with the equalities act requirements taking priority.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Not true. To argue that they are women is to discriminate against women.

Don't be silly. If I argue that everyone is Asian, it wouldn't be discrimination against Asian people.
I suggest you look up the definition of discrimination.

 

[Roy Bloom]

I think Roy needs to go on ignore. He's a serial fruit loop.

Please do, then I won't have to deal with your comments aimed at me.

 

[Deleted member 294929]

Please do, then I won't have to deal with your comments aimed at me.

Who said that?

 

[Roy Bloom]

There are how many biological sexes - male, female, intersex - that's it all this gender nonsense is confusing and not helpful.

Think of it as a continuum line, with Male at one end, and Female at the other.
Then there's a myriad of varieties between the two extremes.
There's effeminate males, and masculine females, and all sorts.

But the law in UK, only recognises two sexes. You can only be defined as male or female. It's been that way since the year dot.
Maybe one day the law will catch up with biological science.

 

[Deleted member 221031]

@Bod ... has the right idea.