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[motorbiking]

As I said, occasionally a space can be defined so that it over-rides the Equlaities Act.
Women's toilets do not normally qualify for soingle SEX spaces, but they would qualify as single gender spaces.
Therefore any attempt to prevent a transwoman using a women's toilet, based solely on the fact that they are a transgender person woulod be considered as discrimination.

That’s not correct you don’t seem to understand that the gender recognition laws only go so far.

 

[JohnD]

Roy frequently pretends that "sex" means gender, and "gender" means sex.

 

[Dork Lard]

Roy frequently pretends that "sex" means gender, and "gender" means sex.

I don't think Roy understands the nature of most folks objections.

 

[Roy Bloom]

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BTW, a man is not a woman.

A man is not a woman.

A man is not a woman. ...

It is a term of abuse used by transactivists to try to diminish women who do not agree that a man is a woman.

There is no slogan in my post.

No?
What do you call your frequently repeated statement?
Would you argue that your statement is simply a statement about biology.
Or would you admit that you keep repeating it, in this context of transgenders, because it is a slogan?
It's a slogan that you rely on for your argument, because that's all you have.
That, and the frequent allegations and dishonest accusations, sich as this:

But I did correct your false and biased "definition" and supporting slurs.

Please show which false definitions, and which slurs I presented, instead of vague and untrue allegations.

 

[Brigadier]

A hill on which to die.

A standard trigger for the inevitable death and reincarnation of Himmy.

 

[Deleted member 221031]

A man is not a woman. That’s a statement of fact, not a slogan.

And as such a trans man should use a man’s toilet? Or not ?

 

[Roy Bloom]

"Male" and "Female" are sexes.
Sex is biological and genetic.

The legal assigned sex of a baby is based on a medical diagnosis, at birth. A medical/biological diagnosis sometimes performed by poorly or even unqualified practitioners.
The following article illustrates the situation with bona fide but untrained midwives still attending births up until 1947.

The 1902 Midwives Act was the culmination of a struggle between those who wanted midwives to focus only on normal births, and those who wanted autonomous midwives with responsibility for all births, both normal and abnormal. The former triumphed, resulting in newly registered midwives who were required to have a mere three months, training (increased to six months in 1916 and to a year in 1926), and who had to call in a doctor in dangerous or difficult cases. Established midwives without qualifications were allowed to continue in practice, as long as they showed themselves to be of good character and obtained registration with the Central Midwives' Board (CMB) by 1 January 1910: some such bona fide midwives continued to deliver infants until 1947. It was recognised that occasionally, in the absence of a midwife or doctor, someone else would have to deliver an infant and this was not prohibited, but the Act made it clear that from 1905 only women certified under the Act would be entitled to ‘take or use the name or title of midwife’ and to ‘recover any fee or charge for attendance as a midwife’.

Birth Attendants and Midwifery Practice in Early Twentieth-century Derbyshire

Summary. The 1902 Midwives Act introduced training and supervision for midwives in England and Wales, outlawing uncertified-and-untrained midwives (handywo

academic.oup.com

But medical diagnosis, even among the best trained and highly qualified medical practitioners is really just a best guess:

Understanding medical diagnosis: why it’s all ‘best guesses’​

Understanding Medical Diagnosis: Why It's All 'best Guesses' | Thriving While Disabled

Doctors diagnose their patients using differential diagnosis or pattern recognition. Misdiagnoses are incredibly common, and understanding why is vital.

thrivingwhiledisabled.com

You are talking about "feelings" or preferences or whims.

Gender is a life-time choice, a choice made by a mature or maturing people. it's independent of the "best guess" made at birth. Although that "best guess" at birth will have had severe effects on that person's life.
Gender is a life choice of living your life in the role in which you feel most comfortable.
It isn't a whim or a feeling that can be changed on a day-to-day basis.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Persistently posting pointless slogans is abuse as well.
You don't believe that transgender people have a right to live in their chosen gender. And you campaign vigorously to deny their existnece.

This is a false slur you have invented.

How would you describe your refusal to accept that transwomen are women?

 

[Roy Bloom]

But I notice that you keep pretending that the provisions of the GRC apply to any man who says "I am a woman"
They don't.

You are misrepresenting what I have said.
I have never said, nor claimed that the provision of a GRC is applicable to anyone who says "I am a woman". That is just one of the criteria required to obtain a GRC, as I very clearly showed:

What I did do, is to show how the law recognises anyone who says that "I am a woman", as a woman.

You are deliberately misrepresenting the truth
And lying about the law.

Show us these examples of me misrepresenting the truth, or lying about the law, instead of vague and pointless allegations.

A man is not a woman.

More pointless slogans.
These just reinforce the assumption that you are ideologically opposed to transgender people.
It's like someone repeating ad infinitum, "the Bible is the word of God" in order to blot out any argument proving it false.
It's childish and not worthy of rational debate.

 

[Roy Bloom]

And there are men who say they are women.

You can refer to them as trans if you want to differentiate from other men.

I refer to them as women, unless we need to differentiate betwween them and those assigned the labelof female at birth.

Again all yu are doing is illustrating that you have an ideological belief that transgender people cannot and should not be allowed.
But you have no intelligent reason to suport your ideological belief, merely oft repeated slogans.

 

[Roy Bloom]

That’s not correct you don’t seem to understand that the gender recognition laws only go so far.

What's not correct?
Stop being vague and ambiguous and state your argument clearly and precisely.

 

[Odds]

A man is not a woman. That’s a statement of fact, not a slogan.

I'm starting to hear it to the Percy Sledge tune; 'when a man loves a woman'.

 

[Deleted member 221031]

What's not correct?
Stop being vague and ambiguous and state your argument clearly and precisely.

Like you do ? That’s the best one so far lol

 

[Roy Bloom]

Roy frequently pretends that "sex" means gender, and "gender" means sex.

Nonsense.
Sex is assigned at birth. It's a choice made by the attendant. It's sometimes a best guess based on the available evidence at the time. Sometimes, it's an incorrect choice.
It's also a description used to differentiate between anatomical or chromosomal differences.
Someties the choice made at birth does not completely conform to the anatomical and/or chromosomal reality.
But there are only two choices abailable in UK, and a decision has to made within a very short time frame after birth.

Gender refers to socially constructed roles that are related to sex distinctions

There's a plethora of information out there if you care to look.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/13647820_Gender_and_Sex_Vive_la_Difference#:~:text=Sex%20refers%20to%20the%20anatomical,especially%20among%20bioarchaeologists%20and%20primatologists.

 

[JohnD]

Gender refers to socially constructed roles that are related to sex distinctions

In current Transactivist usage, "Gender" refers to the whim or fantasy of the moment, needing no supporting facts and no consistency