Hot Air

[Notch7]

Sure, but his figures for the EU lagging behind China and the US in the hunt to secure semi-conductors is alarming

He fails to mention EU chips act


EU is way ahead of U.K. on semiconductor investment.

EU may be lagging behind but it’s made plans to address that:

The Chips Act will boost the European ecosystem for semiconductors and play a vital part in strengthening the EU's competitiveness at the global level," the bloc's Swedish presidency announced.

Under the agreement, the EU aims to double its current global market share to 20 percent in 2030 and mobilise more than €43 billion in public and private investments to feed Europe's growing appetite for chips.

EU strikes €43 billion deal to boost semiconductor chip production

The EU has reached an agreement on how to boost the supply of semiconductors in Europe as the bloc races to reduce its dependency on Asian suppliers.

www.euronews.com

 

[denso13]

Nothing so drastic as collapse, hopefully

That would make him wrong then.

but it will certainly evolve into the 'Superstate' the UK was adamant to be apart from.

You are entitled to your opinion.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Nothing so drastic as collapse, hopefully, but it will certainly evolve into the 'Superstate' the UK was adamant to be apart from.

What do you mean by superstate?

Even if you mean like usa, its amazing how much difference there is in lifestyles and laws from state to state.

Superstate is probably just a scare term

 

[Odds]

'Superstate' is a convenient term for headline writers, but how else would the EU grow if it did not integrate closer political union with member nations? A Federal Europe is bound to do so by the fundamental construction of it's body politick.
The United States is a Federal body with a centralised government which the EU is clearly modelled upon.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

'Superstate' is a convenient term for headline writers, but how else would the EU grow if it did not integrate closer political union with member nations? A Federal Europe is bound to do so by the fundamental construction of it's body politick.
The United States is a Federal body with a centralised government which the EU is clearly modelled upon.

So you think Portugal and Poland will be identical in all laws and life styles for example ?

 

[Notch7]

but it will certainly evolve into the 'Superstate' the UK was adamant to be apart from

Will it?

the EU is made of 27 countries, all with varying positions on the EU, they don’t all by any means want a federalist state.

I have seen little evidence the EU will evolve into a superstate.

It is true there has been talk of an EU military, but that came about when mad Trump was US President.

 

[Odds]

So you think Portugal and Poland will be identical in all laws and life styles for example ?

No.

 

[Roy Bloom]

but it will certainly evolve into the 'Superstate' the UK was adamant to be apart from.

Is that such a bad thing?
Carmemoranda has pointed out that USA absorbs the differences between states wihtout problems, and gives some degree of autonomy to those states.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

No.

So explain superstate then

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Is that such a bad thing?
Carmemoranda has pointed out that USA absorbs the differences between states wihtout problems, and gives some degree of autonomy to those states.

Not some. A lot !

 

[Odds]

Will it?

the EU is made of 27 countries, all with varying positions on the EU, they don’t all by any means want a federalist state.

I have seen little evidence the EU will evolve into a superstate.

It is true there has been talk of an EU military, but that came about when mad Trump was US President.

They've already got a Federal state. Too late to think otherwise now.
I don't think the'd have a standing European Army but continue to collaborate closely on mutual defence and combine their armies when threatened from Russia. They may have to if America withdraws from NATO.

 

[Notch7]

but how else would the EU grow if it did not integrate closer political union with member nations

The EU can grow by increasing its number of members.

It can also grow by increasing the wealth of members states, which is indeed happening, the gdp of the Eastern blok A8 countries has grown enormously since they joined.

 

[Odds]

So explain superstate then

Like a state. Only super.
Life in Texas is very different to life in Michigan.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Like a state. Only super.
Life in Texas is very different to life in Michigan.

It's just words

Doesn't actually mean anything does it

 

[Roy Bloom]

They've already got a Federal state. Too late to think otherwise now.
I don't think the'd have a standing European Army but continue to collaborate closely on mutual defence and combine their armies when threatened from Russia. They may have to if America withdraws from NATO.

If USA withdraws from NATO, would that make NATO a basically European Treaty Organisation?
And there's no guarrantee that Trump will not be the next POTUS.