I was in a Hezbollah tunnel

[Mottie]

If only you could have said this to the zionist terrorists in 1948

Well you’re just being silly now, I wasn’t around in 1948 but the person I quoted WAS around on October 6th last year so my post makes sense, yours, as per, doesn’t.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Well you’re just being silly now, I wasn’t around in 1948 but the person I quoted WAS around on October 6th last year so my post makes sense, yours, as per, doesn’t.

It makes sense if you only look at a snapshot.

But that means not learning from history, and we all know what that means

 

[fillyboy]

But that means not learning from history, and we all know what that means

The Arabs have certainly never learned from history.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

The Arabs have certainly never learned from history.

Non answer. Thank you

 

[fillyboy]

Non answer. Thank you

Your welcome.

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

The Arabs have certainly never learned from history.

They should have cosied up to USA.

 

[fillyboy]

They should have cosied up to USA.

Nail on head.

Why not?, they still can of course just as Saudi will. Got to be better than cosying up to Iran. Aligning themselves with Israel, Saudi and the US will very likely bring them peace, stability and prosperity. Aligning with Iran?, another 75 years of death and destruction.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Nail on head.

Why not?, they still can of course just as Saudi will. Got to be better than cosying up to Iran. Aligning themselves with Israel, Saudi and the US will very likely bring them peace, stability and prosperity. Aligning with Iran?, another 75 years of death and destruction.

1 way of looking at it.

If you think that the west is right, and other views, ways of life, are wrong of course.

A lot of the world doesn't view usa and the west as right.

Depends on your upbringing largely

 

[Vinty]

Says the Antisemitic one!

The correct term should be Anti Jewish.

 

[fillyboy]

1 way of looking at it.

If you think that the west is right, and other views, ways of life, are wrong of course.

A lot of the world doesn't view usa and the west as right.

Depends on your upbringing largely

Doesn't matter what I think, but do you really believe the people of Iran wouldn't be happy to be rid of the Ayatollahs?.

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

..
If you think that the west is right, and other views, ways of life, are wrong of course.
A lot of the world doesn't view usa and the west as right.
...

Might is right, I fear.

If you go back to the UN General Assembly Resolution 181.
The UN is only a collection of member nations. Its primary role is in peace keeping, and resolutions to end conflicts.
Only the security Council Resolutions are enforceable. The resolutions of the General Assembly are only advisory.
It has no comparison with the EU, nor the US, nor the old USSR, because it has no overarching council to formulate policy.

The only semi-autonomous organ is the International Court of Justice. But the judges are appointed by the UN General Assembly.

So when we talk about the UN Resolutions we are talking about the decisions arrived at by the member nations.
In 1947 there were 51 member nations.
And the UN General Assembly Resolution 181 was passed by 33 votes to 13., There were 10 Abstentions including the UK.
Palestine was not represented and the UK did not accept Palestine being a member of the Arab League.
TransJordan was also not represented, neither was Turkey.
This is despite the population of Palestine at that time of about 650,000 Jews and about 120,000 Palestinians.
As a General Assembly resolution, it was not enforceable, but the Jews adopted it any way, and a civil war ensued in Israel/Palestine between Jews and Palestinians. The UK were in the process of removing themselves from the region, and were expected to perform a peace keeping role.
So one could argue that the Jews invaded Palestine, because the Resolution was not enforceable, but the Jews enforced it anyway.
Indeed a communication from Ben Gurion stated:

“… we stand by the attitude we took last year, that we will be ready to consider the question of a Jewish State in an adequate area of Palestine, and that we are entitled to Palestine as a whole.”
He also said that if a United Nations decision in favour of Zionist aims provoked violent protest from the Palestinian Arabs, “… we will take care of ourselves.”

https://www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-202927/

The Arab League had also stated their objection to the Resolution and stated that they would violently resist it if it were passed.

The UN (the collection of the 51 members), Palestine (transjordan) was not represented, nor was Israel because it did not exist, the UN passed the resolution in the full knowledge that a conflict would ensue, and in denial of the UN founding principle of self determination by countries.

So a civil war between Jews and Palestinians ensued. (Between November 1947 and May 15 1948)
At the end of the civil war, the Arab League declared war on Israel., May 1948) just hours after the UK left, and Israel had declared its existence and independence.
During the early months of the war between the Arab League and the Jews, now Israelis, there were several attacks on Palestinian civilians which motivated the Nakba. the mass evacuation of Palestinian refugees. About half of the Palestinians population were displaced.
Also during the first two years of the conflict there was a mass migration of Jews to 'the newly declared' independent Israel, from various countries around the world.


So one could be forgiven for perceiving that Israel was borne out of conflict, and not much else.
It has continued to exist through violent conflict and has been supported ever since through violent conflict.

Might is right.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Doesn't matter what I think, but do you really believe the people of Iran wouldn't be happy to be rid of the Ayatollahs?.

I think they are generally anti the west, and it's view on how the world should be.

 

[fillyboy]

Might is right, I fear.

If you go back to the UN General Assembly Resolution 181.
The UN is only a collection of member nations. Its primary role is in peace keeping, and resolutions to end conflicts.
Only the security Council Resolutions are enforceable. The resolutions of the General Assembly are only advisory.
It has no comparison with the EU, nor the US, nor the old USSR, because it has no overarching council to formulate policy.

The only semi-autonomous organ is the International Court of Justice. But the judges are appointed by the UN General Assembly.

So when we talk about the UN Resolutions we are talking about the decisions arrived at by the member nations.
In 1947 there were 51 member nations.
And the UN General Assembly Resolution 181 was passed by 33 votes to 13., There were 10 Abstentions including the UK.
Palestine was not represented and the UK did not accept Palestine being a member of the Arab League.
TransJordan was also not represented, neither was Turkey.
This is despite the population of Palestine at that time of about 650,000 Jews and about 120,000 Palestinians.
As a General Assembly resolution, it was not enforceable, but the Jews adopted it any way, and a civil war ensued in Israel/Palestine between Jews and Palestinians. The UK were in the process of removing themselves from the region, and were expected to perform a peace keeping role.
So one could argue that the Jews invaded Palestine, because the Resolution was not enforceable, but the Jews enforced it anyway.
Indeed a communication from Ben Gurion stated:

https://www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-202927/

The Arab League had also stated their objection to the Resolution and stated that they would violently resist it if it were passed.

The UN (the collection of the 51 members), Palestine (transjordan) was not represented, nor was Israel because it did not exist, the UN passed the resolution in the full knowledge that a conflict would ensue, and in denial of the UN founding principle of self determination by countries.

So a civil war between Jews and Palestinians ensued. (Between November 1947 and May 15 1948)
At the end of the civil war, the Arab League declared war on Israel., May 1948) just hours after the UK left, and Israel had declared its existence and independence.
During the early months of the war between the Arab League and the Jews, now Israelis, there were several attacks on Palestinian civilians which motivated the Nakba. the mass evacuation of Palestinian refugees. About half of the Palestinians population were displaced.
Also during the first two years of the conflict there was a mass migration of Jews to 'the newly declared' independent Israel, from various countries around the world.


So one could be forgiven for perceiving that Israel was borne out of conflict, and not much else.
It has continued to exist through violent conflict and has been supported ever since through violent conflict.

Might is right.

It's a lovely story of course, but only serves to enforce the need for a jewish homeland. Look, you can hate jews as m8uch as you like, I don't care, you can deny their right to a homeland as much as you want, I don't care.

But make no mistake, you have a hatred for Jews and you are conflating more and more to disguise that.

Be honest, you don't like jews, and you support terrorism.

If I felt the same way, I'd have the honesty to admit it.

 

[Risteard]

we need to reopen arm supplies to Israel - surely no one can say they are not allowed to fight back against this terrorist scum

They have no right to exist. They are thieves of Palestine, Syria and other countries. So no - they don't have a right to "fight back". The Zionist entity is the terrorist state.

 

[fillyboy]

They have no right to exist. They are thieves of Palestine, Syria and other countries. So no - they don't have a right to "fight back". The Zionist entity is the terrorist state.

Fortunately Risteard, most people recognise you as a complete nutjob. Jog on.