Is Christinanity a monotheistic religion, or what?
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Good point; could it also mean that you could have other gods after me (him, her, it). Could you have this god for most of the week then worship buddha for a couple of hours on a friday?
It sounds like god is trying to create an unfair monopoly here, a bit like tesco saying thou shalt not enter ye portals of another supermarket. Anyway what would god say if you did worship 2 gods equally, would he ban you from heaven altogether or only allow you in for half of eternity, and after all, which is most fun, heaven or nirvana?
Someone in the paper the other day raised what I thoiught was an interesting point about these cartoons of the prophet that were published in that Danish newspaper. If the people who published these pictures are destined to eternal damnation anyway, why are the muslims threatening them and calling in bomb hoaxes? Why are Danes being warned to be carefull in Saudi Arabia, if they are already damned then isn't that punishment enough?
In fact, if all non-muslims are destined for the 'other place' then shouldn't muslims be feeling rather sorry for non-believers as a whole, and the same goes for christians. Shouldn't christians be trying to make life on earth for muslims as happy as possible as they have only got eternal hellfire to look forward to after they're gone, and after all, christianity is meant to be a charitable religion?
I found this site http://answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/qi029.htmlwhich shows conflicting statements in the koran. It states on one hand that believers who die for their faith, in defense of it, or persecuted for it, are assured of Heaven. But it further states that "There will be no one of you who will not enter it (Hell).
This was an inevitable decree of your Lord.
Afterwards he may save some of the pious, God-fearing Muslims out of the burning fire."
No wonder muslims can seem to be so f****d up.
It sounds like god is trying to create an unfair monopoly here, a bit like tesco saying thou shalt not enter ye portals of another supermarket. Anyway what would god say if you did worship 2 gods equally, would he ban you from heaven altogether or only allow you in for half of eternity, and after all, which is most fun, heaven or nirvana?
Someone in the paper the other day raised what I thoiught was an interesting point about these cartoons of the prophet that were published in that Danish newspaper. If the people who published these pictures are destined to eternal damnation anyway, why are the muslims threatening them and calling in bomb hoaxes? Why are Danes being warned to be carefull in Saudi Arabia, if they are already damned then isn't that punishment enough?
In fact, if all non-muslims are destined for the 'other place' then shouldn't muslims be feeling rather sorry for non-believers as a whole, and the same goes for christians. Shouldn't christians be trying to make life on earth for muslims as happy as possible as they have only got eternal hellfire to look forward to after they're gone, and after all, christianity is meant to be a charitable religion?
I found this site http://answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/qi029.htmlwhich shows conflicting statements in the koran. It states on one hand that believers who die for their faith, in defense of it, or persecuted for it, are assured of Heaven. But it further states that "There will be no one of you who will not enter it (Hell).
This was an inevitable decree of your Lord.
Afterwards he may save some of the pious, God-fearing Muslims out of the burning fire."
No wonder muslims can seem to be so f****d up.
Err - but Christians and Muslims believe in, and worship, the same god....
As do Jews...
As do Jews...
So indeed: what's in a name?
(Don't call it Mandy, for heavens sake)
(Don't call it Mandy, for heavens sake)
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I alwaye enjoy Miles Kington's "minutes from meetings of the gods" in The Independent.
Here's are a few: http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20031006/ai_n12724697
http://www.selvesandothers.org/view508.html
http://www.looksmartsports.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20060105/ai_n15996195
Here's are a few: http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20031006/ai_n12724697
http://www.selvesandothers.org/view508.html
http://www.looksmartsports.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20060105/ai_n15996195
ban-all-sheds said:Christians and Muslims believe in, and worship, the same godquote]didn't realise allah and god were one, mandy also.
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Big_Spark
BAS is right, the first of the religions was Judeism, about 2500 years BC (4000 years or so ago I beleive), from this came the followers of Christ, who were Jews, but the Hardliners didn't accept Jesus as the Son of God, they saw him as a false profit, the followers of Christ thought different and initially the Christians were simply an offshoot of Judeism, just as you have Anglicans, Catholics, Methodists etc with the umbrella of Christianity.
At some point it was established as a seperate religion.
A similar thing occured in about 400AD (I think) that ultimately led to the Islamic faith being created about 800AD.
Effectively we are all Jews, just some have a mangled dangly bit and some do not!!!
Oi Bignose!!
BTW..God does have a name in the Christian faith, it is Jehohva..it is where those annoying shiites who knock on your door get their name from! (I'd still like to know why he needed a witness in the first place..was he trying to deny genocide, as in the biblical flood??? )
At some point it was established as a seperate religion.
A similar thing occured in about 400AD (I think) that ultimately led to the Islamic faith being created about 800AD.
Effectively we are all Jews, just some have a mangled dangly bit and some do not!!!
Oi Bignose!!
BTW..God does have a name in the Christian faith, it is Jehohva..it is where those annoying shiites who knock on your door get their name from! (I'd still like to know why he needed a witness in the first place..was he trying to deny genocide, as in the biblical flood???
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What - those blokes offering to tarmac my drive??Big_Spark said:
Big_Spark said:
The Jews saw him as a prophet, not a false one. Muslims believe in Jesus, too.
Big_Spark said:Effectively we are all Jews, just some have a mangled dangly bit and some do not!!!
What's the mangled bit? With or without?
Jews and muslims are routinely circumcised.
I think its a false messiah that they see him as.
And just when you think you understand it, Orthodox Jews (hats, ringlets etc.) are viewed with suspicion in Israel as they actually believe in the removal of the Israeli state as it is a human-construct, rather than made by God.
And just when you think you understand it, Orthodox Jews (hats, ringlets etc.) are viewed with suspicion in Israel as they actually believe in the removal of the Israeli state as it is a human-construct, rather than made by God.
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