Loads of Albanians

[diy_fun_uk]

Didn't nigel garbage claim to be patrolling uk beaches in order to turn back the 'boat people'?

Maybe we ought to export him to France along with all those brexiteer loonies so they can practice what they preach!

How many do you want coming in via this route? How many would be acceptable to you? 100 per day? 1000? 10,000?

 

[ajohn]

I wonder if it may like the finding benefits scroungers problem. It costs money to find them. The amount can be increased but there comes a point where costs exceed returns. This has been looked at before. So spend enough to create examples of what can happen when people do. Most areas where this sort of thing can be done are much the same - how much to put into tax evasion for instance. That one is probably harder.

Spotting ours in France doesn't help. The people are there. Spotting them doesn't do anything about that. France does deport some of their own problems. It's much the same in all european countries.

Costs who ever does it. Processing. Asylum if granted, appeals if not granted. Appeals seem to cost a lot. They are successful at times. There are other costs concerning reception centres etc. Repatriation costs - our lot do not seem to like to do much of that. Loads await complete processing. Not unusual in any country. Deporting numbers to anywhere costs.

LOL We could all pay more tax to pay for it. So many want to evict all surely they wouldn't mind paying for it. I'd use all of Farage's money and a few others.

Then comes all of these theys. Total utter bull stuff, they all do not do what ever. Just because a news source finds one / a few it doesn't mean all do. Make good reading though, collects more clicks.

Announce we don't do asylum or immigration. Round 'em all up and dump them where? Use the forces in case they object. If a country wont have them back kit them out with parachutes or smuggle them in.

Or of course what is going on may be the cheapest option. Doing any more costs more.

 

[Pat ex]

How many do you want coming in via this route? How many would be acceptable to you? 100 per day? 1000? 10,000?

As Ella has not proposed any route, I assume you are referring to my comment, and made a mistake with the quote function.

If those asylum seekers were intending to attempt a channel crossing anyway, why not make a process where they don't need to use people smugglers, and can cross the channel by regular safe routes. If they can pay the people smugglers, they can afford the regular route prices, and be quids in.
UK is still going to have to process them sooner or later, but in the meantime they are risking their lives, costing enormous amounts of money trying to prevent them, involving search and rescue organisations, etc.

Only the successful applicants would be allowed to remain, just like now.

 

[Odds]

As Ella has not proposed any route, I assume you are referring to my comment, and made a mistake with the quote function.

If those asylum seekers were intending to attempt a channel crossing anyway, why not make a process where they don't need to use people smugglers, and can cross the channel by regular safe routes. If they can pay the people smugglers, they can afford the regular route prices, and be quids in.
UK is still going to have to process them sooner or later, but in the meantime they are risking their lives, costing enormous amounts of money trying to prevent the, involving search and rescue organisations, etc.

You're ignoring the elephant in the room: Brexit. The Tories resolved to reduce immigration, not codify, sanctify and endorse more to come to our shores.

 

[^woody^]

Do these illegals pay for their own electricity and gas?

Or are the libtards happy to keep paying and paying as the costs go up and the resources go down?

 

[diy_fun_uk]

As Ella has not proposed any route, I assume you are referring to my comment, and made a mistake with the quote function.

If those asylum seekers were intending to attempt a channel crossing anyway, why not make a process where they don't need to use people smugglers, and can cross the channel by regular safe routes. If they can pay the people smugglers, they can afford the regular route prices, and be quids in.
UK is still going to have to process them sooner or later, but in the meantime they are risking their lives, costing enormous amounts of money trying to prevent them, involving search and rescue organisations, etc.

Only the successful applicants would be allowed to remain, just like now.

I reckon many of them don't want to follow due process, cause they know their applications wouldn't be rubber stamped.

We keep pussy-footing around all this stuff, ultimately getting us nowhere.

This thread was started on the subject of Albanians. What's horrific about Albania for those born there? Is it war-torn? Is it a horrendous metaphorical swamp that no one would want to live in? Are the woman being raped en-mass? Are men being rounded up and shot? Are kids being torn from their parents?

There are umpteen companies offering holidays there ffs.

 

[Pat ex]

Do these illegals pay for their own electricity and gas?

Or are the libtards happy to keep paying and paying as the costs go up and the resources go down?

Who are your referring to as "illegals".
It's not illegal to apply for asylum. Once applied, they're legal to remain while their application is processed.
If their application is successful, they're given leave to remain, i.e. they're legally entitled to be here.
if their application is rejected, they're still entitled to be here while their appeal is processed.

Once their appeal is rejected they're expected to make their own way back to their country of birth, but no-one seems to be checking that they do.

 

[Pat ex]

This thread was started on the subject of Albanians.

When a real cost-effective solution is offered, let's avoid talking about that and go back to an earlier discussion.

They're intending to come to UK sooner or later, so make it safe and regular for them, then process them in exactly the same way as if they arrived by dingy.
People smugglers would have no customers, search and rescue organisations can revert back to their day job, UK would save a whole heap of money, etc.
Problem solved!

 

[diy_fun_uk]

When a real cost-effective solution is offered, let's avoid talking about that and go back to an earlier discussion.

They're intending to come to UK sooner or later, so make it safe and regular for them, then process them in exactly the same way as if they arrived by dingy.
People smugglers would have no customers, search and rescue organisations can revert back to their day job, UK would save a whole heap of money, etc.
Problem solved!

Are they? Ok, let them apply FROM their own country and if their application is successful, happy days, come on over. If not, stay put in your non-war-torn holiday destination country and get on with your life.

 

[^woody^]

Who are your referring to as "illegals"

Every single one of the illegals crossing the channel illegally in an attempt to enter the country illegally are illegals

The asylum application tends to come later.

For clarity, it is possible to apply for asylum in the first safe country you enter, or apply for asylum in the UK from the other side of the English Channel

 

[ajohn]

You're ignoring the elephant in the room: Brexit.

It doesn't really relate to illegals at all. Makes more sense to stick to areas where it has changed things.

For a laugh I'll mention one a bit tongue in cheek say the country needed a bail out loan. The IMF might insist who ever is in power sells what ever it can. NHS for instance. Don't think there is much else left. An EU bail out might be more understanding. Terms are generally always a bit stiff when this crops up so who knows.

Now there is no chance we will need such a loan or is there?

 

[ajohn]

Illegal in this area applies to how people arrive.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

Nonsense. Regardless of your bulls hit - hypothetically, if they stopped cheering do you think the boats would cease?

Lol.

Usual loutish drivel from the forum shoveller. If the millions of simps who spout the 'refugees welcome' bilge were strongly anti instead - don't you think politicians may change their stance?

 

[transam]

Have you figured out why all boats come from France?

Actually the EU have had some success in tackling the problem. The crooks involved need both boats and engines. That has allowed some to be locked up. Unusually sized order for them - from China.

Why are the boats coming from France ??
Best advised you ask the French may be

 

[transam]

Usual loutish drivel from the forum shoveller. If the millions of simps who spout the 'refugees welcome' bilge were strongly anti instead - don't you think politicians may change their stance?

Noseall along with few others in here could dip there hands in there pockets and take an Albanian migrant and give em lodgings ??

Best advised not to leave any valuables about ?

Roll up yer carpets and put em in storage ?

Any thing that moves screw or bolt it down ?

Warn yer neighbours