- Joined
- 25 Jul 2022
- Messages
- 13,179
- Reaction score
- 1,044
- Country
Money saving asylum seeker pilot scheme abandoned
- Thread starter IT Minion
- Start date
Sponsored Links
- Joined
- 31 May 2016
- Messages
- 18,119
- Reaction score
- 2,742
- Country
rubbish as you know.
but here again for the hard of thinking.
Every adult (except those who have been trafficked) who enters the UK via small boat etc. without the appropriate passport, visa or leave is guilty of s24 of the immigration act. Those who assist others by piloting/steering/helming/etc may be guilty of a s25 offence. They are therefore all illegal immigrants.
If they can subsequently prove they are refugees, they may be afforded protection by the state. Noting the following things:
1) the government has stated it will not grant refugee status (save for the small exceptions) to anyone guilty of s24.. s25 etc. arriving by small boat
2) the refugee convention does not require protection to those guilty of crimes.
3) s24 and s25 offences committed during an attempt to enter the UK for the purpose of claiming asylum does not give the illegal immigrant a get out of jail card if they did not come directly to the UK without passing through any other safe country.
You don't like it, but its the UK government's strategy and the legal basis that they are operating within.
Currently the CPS target offenders who have aggravating factors, there is a long list (already shared), and these include previous attempts or allegations of facilitation (s24 or s25). If there is sufficient evidence to proceed on facilitation you get s25 and typically 4 years prison, if not they go s24 with 9 months.
So you start out as an illegal immigrant.
Ivor did a fine job already.
but here again for the hard of thinking.
Every adult (except those who have been trafficked) who enters the UK via small boat etc. without the appropriate passport, visa or leave is guilty of s24 of the immigration act. Those who assist others by piloting/steering/helming/etc may be guilty of a s25 offence. They are therefore all illegal immigrants.
If they can subsequently prove they are refugees, they may be afforded protection by the state. Noting the following things:
1) the government has stated it will not grant refugee status (save for the small exceptions) to anyone guilty of s24.. s25 etc. arriving by small boat
2) the refugee convention does not require protection to those guilty of crimes.
3) s24 and s25 offences committed during an attempt to enter the UK for the purpose of claiming asylum does not give the illegal immigrant a get out of jail card if they did not come directly to the UK without passing through any other safe country.
You don't like it, but its the UK government's strategy and the legal basis that they are operating within.
Currently the CPS target offenders who have aggravating factors, there is a long list (already shared), and these include previous attempts or allegations of facilitation (s24 or s25). If there is sufficient evidence to proceed on facilitation you get s25 and typically 4 years prison, if not they go s24 with 9 months.
So you start out as an illegal immigrant.
show me where I said all illegal immigrants are prosecuted. Its in your head as usual.
And there are strict criteria: ability to support the relative, and a short list of qualifying relatives.
But that has only existed for a few months, so they're just labels applied at random.
Sponsored Links
So once out of the perils of the trauma that they're suffering and in a safe country. These asylum seekers and illegal immigrants start compiling their shopping list of where they want to live.
Does Britain offer healthcare tick.
Does Britain offer a high hope of not being deported tick.
Does Britain have a black economy I can work in with a high hope of thriving tick.
Is their a possibility I can land myself a house and possibly bring my family over tick.
Does Britain have a language that is well known round the world tick.
Is there lots of liberal minded people who think I'm the bees knees tick.
Do a lot of people work head down ar*e up who don't like me. There are a few but we have laws like racism to nip that in the bud.
Thatl do for me where's me Lilo.
- Joined
- 22 Jan 2007
- Messages
- 17,151
- Reaction score
- 2,397
- Country
Sounds great. Strange that most don't come here, elsewhere must be even better.
Why is there a ring of steel round Britains coastline?
- Joined
- 22 Jan 2007
- Messages
- 17,151
- Reaction score
- 2,397
- Country
What?
Do you think people just come via a lifeboat to dover to get into the country?
And how long have you been green round the gills?
And how long have you been green round the gills?
- Joined
- 22 Jan 2007
- Messages
- 17,151
- Reaction score
- 2,397
- Country
No.
Why did you say what then?
- Joined
- 22 Jan 2007
- Messages
- 17,151
- Reaction score
- 2,397
- Country
It's not obvious to you then, if France has a problem with policing it's shoreline then other countries may have the same problem. Takes some manpower don't you think.
- Joined
- 22 Jan 2007
- Messages
- 17,151
- Reaction score
- 2,397
- Country
What has all this got to do with immigrants choosing other countries rather than the UK?
I think we best leave it there, I find myself locked out of threads when I get to involved with you for some reason.
Sponsored Links
