I do think Covid is very real, but I think the time is right to change our approach to it and I think you've hinted at that nicely in your post.
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I do think Covid is very real, but I think the time is right to change our approach to it and I think you've hinted at that nicely in your post.
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I don't think we're there yet.
That's fair enough, and I always respect what others have to say. I'm happy to conclude that we don't agree.
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Lets just close a few more businesses , force inflation ,interest rates and income tax up a bit more. increase unemployment a few more percent. force suicide up and increase mental ill health . lock up young and old and close education for a bit longer .
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The mutations are entirely random and accidental due to the flawed nature and error-prone of RNA viruses.
For sure the more transmissible and longer lasting mutations will become dominant. That is the nature of the survival of the fittest, because they don't kill their host and allow that mutation to spread.
But that ignores all the other mutations, and each transmission will create some minor mutation. So there could be just as easily innumerable mutations that are far more deadly, and always kill their host, that never become endemic to warrant any identification. But it still results in serious illness an deaths.
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You're still believing that most other UK and European nations are acting politically, but Boris isn't?
You should start a religion.
Whoa calm down
I merely stated that there will be a political factor in the decision to adopt restrictions across the four different governments present in the UK. Yes, Boris will be making decisions based on politics (remember all those pictures and videos leaked, right before Christmas?) Sorry, but you'd be daft not to at least consider it.As for Europe I don't know, as I didn't bring it up!
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I am calm. I just can't believe that you'd rather think that all the other nations, including the European nations, are acting more on political grounds, but Boris isn't.Whoa calm down
As for Europe I don't know, as I didn't bring it up!
I'd rather put my trust in any other political leader than Boris. Not only has he been proven to lie any time it's convenient, he's also been shown to throw caution to the wind (let the bodies pile up in the streets, still shaking hands, not wearing his mask, etc.)
He's the very embodiment of how not to do it.
And as an illustration of your logic, you think Covid is a seasonal flu.
Well, again I didn't bring Europe as I don't know.
Secondly, I didn't say that parts of the UK "are acting more on political grounds" (your quote) I said that "there will be a political factor" (my quote) -- see the difference?
There is definitely a political factor amongst the individual administrations within the UK to act differently, based on political circumstance. For the governments of Scotland and Wales (who are both governed by nationalist parties), they will certainly be motivated to act different for the people they are responsible for, to mark a difference between them and England. For Boris, his decisions over restrictions were undoubtedly affected by the political fallout from the pictures/videos shared in the media of the cheese and wine 'meetings'.
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France, apparently, is seeing over 200k cases a day with such strict measures in place, nightclubs & schools currently shut, Vaccine Passports, strict mask use and more. Quoth Adam Brooks (Adam Brooks (@EssexPR) / Twitter).
What he is saying is that those measures are not working!
Also, from Adam Brooks, 8 million bits of plastic and packaging have been used in the past 2 days.
What he is saying is that there will shortly be a huge number of positive test results announced leading to more panic and restrictions...and several tons of plastic waste!
Influenza is a coronavirus, just like Covid-19 is a coronavirus.
My logic is correct, as both are seasonal.
(I know that post wasnt directed to me)
Id just like to say: The points you make are measured and to me reflect reality -the data is not definitive and there are no binary answers
You think lockdowns are no longer necessary -I think thats a perfectly reasonable position to take
I think the limited lockdown measures in place currently are about right
Generally I think govts have to err on the cautious side because if infections got out of hand and hospitalisations rocketed, theres no way back from that.
I lockdown measures wernet needed, then they can be removed
I think you've summed it up perfectly -- again, happy to respect the informed views of others and accept that mine is different. I am not a conspiracist nor an anti-vaxxer, but I do believe our reaction to Covid is now more damaging than Covid iteself.
says Adam Brooks -the pub landlord
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Then accept my word for it, that England is acting differently to most other European nations.
You were eager to point out that the three other nations were acting politically, for some strange reason, but you ignored the possibility that Boris was.
You are still basing your ideas on some peculiar notion that the only reason that the three other nations are acting differently is simply to be different.
That's nonsensical that three political leaders would act differently to another simple to be different. In addition Boris was the last to announce any measures (or none), probably heavily influenced by his hard line colleagues. So how could the other three have had any idea on what to base their 'different' strategy?
Your logic appears to be based purely on your political loyalty to Boris.
In addition your logic is demonstrably flawed because you think Covid is seasonal.
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