Oh FFS. Not again!

[carmanmemoranda]

2024 was a record year for deaths in the channel. Kier must be feeling so proud of himself.

Why, you think he pushed the boats back and sank them ?

 

[Mottie]

Why, you think he pushed the boats back and sank them ?

No, he encouraged them here with his actions of scrapping the Rwanda plan. Anyone who encourages people to their death is a complete and utter **** in my eyes.

 

[crystal ball]

No, he encouraged them here with his actions of scrapping the Rwanda plan. Anyone who encourages people to their death is a complete and utter **** in my eyes.

John Major criticises Rwanda asylum plan as ‘un-Conservative and un-British’

Former prime minister says previous Tory government’s immigration policy would not have acted as a deterrent

www.theguardian.com

 

[carmanmemoranda]

John Major criticises Rwanda asylum plan as ‘un-Conservative and un-British’

Former prime minister says previous Tory government’s immigration policy would not have acted as a deterrent

www.theguardian.com

So when the Rwanda plan was active and people died on the way here, that was the fault of the Tory PM of the time?

Think it through a bit

 

[Mottie]

John Major criticises Rwanda asylum plan as ‘un-Conservative and un-British’

Former prime minister says previous Tory government’s immigration policy would not have acted as a deterrent

www.theguardian.com

Probably why he's not prime minister any more.

 

[Mottie]

So when the Rwanda plan was active and people died on the way here, that was the fault of the Tory PM of the time?

Think it through a bit

No. They were chancers. A lot won, quite a few lost. A bit like those that smoke, take drugs or drink to excess. I’m thinking of those that who were dissuaded from attempting the crossing and are still alive to tell the tale (and still not suffering) in France.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

No. They were chancers. A lot won, quite a few lost. A bit like those that smoke, take drugs or drink to excess. I’m thinking of those that who were dissuaded from attempting the crossing and are still alive to tell the tale (and still not suffering) in France.

So it's not Kier or Boris or May or Truss or Sunak personally then ?

 

[crystal ball]

Probably why he's not prime minister any more.

Doubt it, try being trounced in 97

 

[noseall]

he encouraged them here with his actions of scrapping the Rwanda plan

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[Notch7]

No, he encouraged them here with his actions of scrapping the Rwanda plan.

how many people were sent to Rwanda?

 

[Mottie]

how many people were sent to Rwanda?

It’s the threat that is the deterrent. Labour scrapped that threat and the crossings went up immediately. Perhaps that’s what Kier meant by taking action on day one?

 

[Brigadier]

the crossings went up immediately....

.....the weather improved

 

[Notch7]

It’s the threat that is the deterrent

The Rwanda threat was there in 2022…..when crossings were at their highest.

 

[noseall]

It’s the threat that is the deterrent.

There was no threat and deterrent.

 

[Notch7]

t’s the threat that is the deterrent. Labour scrapped that threat

The action of actually sending people to Rwanda was the threat

None were ever sent, nor close to being sent.

Rwanda plan was only ever created as a distraction…it’s purpose was to see it get rejected by the courts so the Daily Mail could scream that it was a wonderful plan that was thwarted by “lefty lawyers”……which you predictably fell for.