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As the USA doesn't follow the cluster munitions use conventions many of the HIMAR rockets available carry them. There are also HE variants. I can't find any info on their speed and wondered how Russian antimissile stuff would cope. The HIMARS sound like they have similar guidance to the type that GRAV's can have.
Mach 2.5 and badly. The rockets fly relatively low so minimal time to intercept
 
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the GRADS are not comparable to HIMARS as they are not guided.
The newer version of the GRADS are and older ones being updated. Satellite. The question really is how many missiles like that does Russia have. There are probably older pure inertial guidance stuff kicking about which will be less accurate and then unguided.

The mentions on the news have been confusing. The launch vehicles Ukraine have appear to be able to carry 6 M30 or M31 missiles. They can also be kitted out to carry one bigger missile. Range of what they have appears to be 92km or 150km with ER GMLRS which are pretty new and not expected until 2025 according to the wiki. Tested last year. Russia tested a GRAD type precision long range guided missile in 2020. This sort of area is always keep up with the Joneses from one side or the other with the same variations. Different sized rockets for instance and guidance variations.

Russian defences for these. Going on ships using cannon a mobile unit with amazing fire rates as per use on ships, radar guidance and can also use radar guided missiles.

The biggest indication really will be when things kick off again. The Ukraine actions in the south if they succeed - what next. C4 mentioned that they expected better news from that area eventually a while ago now so assume the reporter had heard something.

According to war in ukraine there has been political ructions near the top in Ukraine and lower down also a couple of attempts at legislation regarding fighting which didn't go down well at all with the population.

Blowing bridges up - Russia had similar problems. I recollect one being blown apart probably with a low level flight and a big bomb. UK defense people were saying that a lot of that was going on at the time.
 
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The newer version of the GRADS are and older ones being updated. Satellite. The question really is how many missiles like that does Russia have. There are probably older pure inertial guidance stuff kicking about which will be less accurate and then unguided.

The mentions on the news have been confusing. The launch vehicles Ukraine have appear to be able to carry 6 M30 or M31 missiles. They can also be kitted out to carry one bigger missile. Range of what they have appears to be 92km or 150km with ER GMLRS which are pretty new and not expected until 2025 according to the wiki. Tested last year. Russia tested a GRAD type precision long range guided missile in 2020. This sort of area is always keep up with the Joneses from one side or the other with the same variations. Different sized rockets for instance and guidance variations.

Russian defences for these. Going on ships using cannon a mobile unit with amazing fire rates as per use on ships, radar guidance and can also use radar guided missiles.

The biggest indication really will be when things kick off again. The Ukraine actions in the south if they succeed - what next. C4 mentioned that they expected better news from that area eventually a while ago now so assume the reporter had heard something.

According to war in ukraine there has been political ructions near the top in Ukraine and lower down also a couple of attempts at legislation regarding fighting which didn't go down well at all with the population.

Blowing bridges up - Russia had similar problems. I recollect one being blown apart probably with a low level flight and a big bomb. UK defense people were saying that a lot of that was going on at the time.
Sergei Lavrov stated Russian interests may lead to them taking the region around Zapo-(something) and expanding on their initial war aim of the Luhansk and Donbas regions. Doing so would expand the buffer zone around Krasnodar and prevent easier incursion by the Ukrainian army, also making the port harder to hit with missiles.
I wouldn't expect them to renew any attacks until the end of the scorching summer season but you never know...
 
Sergei Lavrov stated Russian interests may lead to them taking the region around Zapo-(something) a
He said a bit more than that. Ukraine could have accepted lines as they were a while ago. I don't believe that, lots of Donbas to go still. He then went on to say that they will expand further and mentioned the regions.

Personally I have never thought they were after all of Ukraine unless that side decided to give up completely. Just not possible any other way given what Russia has. The old Ukraine east west divide is another matter though. The area has been split up in different ways over history.

An AlJ report just mentioned how many HIMARS Ukraine have. Lower than some suggest but pass. 8 eventually mentioned. Ukraine solders in the south where they are being used reporting they are still outgunned. The bridges may make Russia pull out. Time will tell. The video of the bridge damage was a little different to the one posted as well. Pass.

A bit more on Odessa. Aimed at a war vessel and weapon store according to Russia so legitimate. Zelenskyy reckons he has found 650 instances of treason hence political sackings. Might pay to bear this in mind with strikes like this and others. Another pass really but given the nature of the place I'd suspect there will be collaborators. They have been trying to flush them out especially in cities. Reporters have followed them around. One bloke that I assume got locked up didn't want to fight Russians. Ex soldier complete with his medals. No signs he was passing info. They check mobile phones.

USA mutterings. Russia talking to Iran, They want strike drones off them. Iran says no according to them. Russian drones are a bit of a black hole. Details never really seem to come out until they licence stuff for export. ??? My impression anyway. USA saying Russia will use nukes as they have said before. They have said the same about chemicals in the past. So far they have been wrong.....................

The 2014 elections might be of interest to some

Something of a change over the ones that got in following Euromaiden who it seems lost a lot of seats. Similar though in the west.
 
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German MP on the radio this morning

It’s expected (?) that Putin will turn off the gas to Europe ?
 
German MP on the radio this morning

It’s expected (?) that Putin will turn off the gas to Europe ?
They're playing more games over it. The latest is to vary the pressure in a way that can damage equipment. The plan appears to be to keep the level through the pipelines very low to keep Europe on the brink of not having enough for winter.

My bet is that they'll cut it off entirely this winter and it will hit Europe fairly hard. Hungary might get an exception as part of a divide and conquer plan for Europe.
 
They're playing more games over it. The latest is to vary the pressure in a way that can damage equipment. The plan appears to be to keep the level through the pipelines very low to keep Europe on the brink of not having enough for winter.

My bet is that they'll cut it off entirely this winter and it will hit Europe fairly hard. Hungary might get an exception as part of a divide and conquer plan for Europe.
Possible, yes. Putin seems very good at finding ways to shoot himself in the foot.
 
Possible, yes. Putin seems very good at finding ways to shoot himself in the foot.
The thing is that it will hurt him, but it'll hurt Europe more. Which is exactly how sanctions are chosen, this is the first meaningful one from Russia applied to the West. Putin expects the West to lose interest and give up, which is the general experience of democracies and Wars. My guess is he's wrong just like every other plan to bomb/sanction/force a nation before that. The blitz didn't work, bombing Germany didn't work, sanctions have never really worked.

Then he'll recover for a bit, build up local industries to limit the effects of sanctions more and grab Transnitria.

I'm surprised that Putin hasn't already shut down the Gas lines.
 
I recall when this ukraine caper kicked off

In the “I” there were 6 pages on the war for a while

Than after a while it went to 4 pages
Than two
Now it appears to be down to one ?
 
Putin is probably managing supply to usage levels so stocks can't be built up. His own economic war with the west, Ok it's indirect for some in the west but effects will spread. The world trade is a machine with lots of cogs. Interfere with one cog and the effects will spread. Russia was fairly major cog as people may have noticed. The effects of that are all over the place.

Take a "trivial" example. The UK exports to the EU. If they hit a major depression what do you think will happen. We also import. Maybe people on the USA wont be able to buy their BMW's but they also import. Not sure on their exports but there are bound to be some.

Pass on how it will all work out but don't assume it's all simple.
 
Putin's other economic war. Trade talks. The ones with India were held in English and broadcast. Anything they want and pay with what ever currency they like. If a country can't afford what they want that may prove attractive to some. It's a pass again but who knows?

Did India take them up on it - don't know. Russia is a member of some trading blocks.
 
The germans are heavily dependent on russian gas , in particular there industry

they are also 5 years (?) away from having enough infrastucture to allow them to accept imported LPG gas

( so the German bloke said on the news this morning)

Its also being claimed by several sources that the Russians are taking 100 military casualties per day ????????? (average)
 
they are also 5 years (?) away from having enough infrastucture to allow them to accept imported LPG gas
They chucked out nuclear when the Japanese one blew up. Probably relates to the greens.
 
They chucked out nuclear when the Japanese one blew up. Probably relates to the greens.
Very much yes. And as a result, started burning lignite coal, making a very large hole, and emitting huge amounts of CO2.

They need to go back to nuclear ASAP.
 
India and china demanded a 35 dollar per barrel price cut on oil

As for gas , russia not so easy to redirect exports to Asia , some thing like 10% of russian gas exports are in LPG format

and building pipe lines is not quick ?

russian imports have collapsed by some say 50%

there economy is going down the collective toilet ??????
 
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