Rape gangs. Why does the Home Office minister not want a national public enquiry?

[Notch7]

Not at all, can always rely on Hislop for a laugh.

oh look Filly doesn’t like facts so tries to deflect by making a joke.

What Filly really means is that Ian Hislop is editor of Private Eye which does serious investigative journalism……which shines a light on the lies and corruption of the people Filly adores.

Filly loves corrupt people with zero morals

 

[noseall]

Not at all, can always rely on Hislop for a laugh.

Ditto. I do like HIGNFY. No doubt he'll satirically send up Musk and show no mercy.
His interview with Andrew Marr however was frank and honest. No fluff. There was nothing funny in it at all.

 

[MNW67]

It’s just that I’ve yet to come across a story of a organised white grooming gang that targets young Asian girls

That's really specific

Perhaps add some more qualifiers. On weekdays when it's sunny? But not Fridays.

 

[Mottie]

That's really specific

Perhaps add some more qualifiers. On weekdays when it's sunny? But not Fridays.

Nope. Anytime. There's plenty of cases of the polar opposite but all some on here just want to point out is the crimes committed by mainly individual white perverts, not organised grooming/rape gangs in many cities as if that will somehow cancel out the crimes committed by these gangs. Two wrongs don't make a right but it doesn’t stop them trying. There must be reason for that don't you think? What could it be?

 

[noseall]

not organised gangs in many cities.

like these

Or these

Perhaps these

all some on here just want to point out is the crimes committed by mainly individual white perverts

Yeah, I saw that too

2010	Razwan Razaq	30	Sexual activity with a child	11 years[49]
2010	Umar Razaq	24	Sexual activity with a child	4 years, 6 months (later reduced on appeal)
2010	Zafran Ramzan	21	Rape, sexual activity with a child	9 years
2010	Mohsin Khan	21	Sexual activity with a child	4 years
2010	Adil Hussain	20	Sexual activity with a child	4 years
2016	Qurban Ali	53	Conspiracy to rape	10 years
2016	Arshid Hussain	40	Rape, indecent assault (23 charges)	35 years
2016	Basharat Hussain	39	Rape (15 charges)	25 years
2016	Bannaras Hussain	36	Rape, indecent assault, actual bodily harm (10 charges)	19 years
2016	Karen MacGregor	58	False imprisonment, conspiracy to procure prostitutes	13 years
2016	Shelley Davies	40	False imprisonment, conspiracy to procure prostitutes	18 months suspended
2016	Sageer Hussain	30	4 rapes, indecent assault	19 years[50]
2016	Basharat Hussain	40	Indecent assault	7 years
2016	Ishtiaq Khaliq	33	Rape, three indecent assaults	17 years
2016	Masoued Malik	32	Rape, false imprisonment, conspiracy to commit indecent assault	15 years
2016	Waleed Ali	34	Rape, indecent assault	13 years
2016	Asif Ali	30	Rape	12 years
2016	Naeem Rafiq	33	Conspiracy to commit indecent assault, false imprisonment	8 years
2016	Mohammed Whied	32	Aiding and abetting rape	5 years
2017	Basharat Dad	32	Rape, indecent assault, and false imprisonment	20 years
2017	Nasser Dad	36	Rape, false imprisonment, inciting gross indecency with a child	14 years, 6 months
2017	Tayab Dad	34	Rape	10 years
2017	Mohammed Sadiq	41	Sexual intercourse with a girl under 13	13 years
2017	Matloob Hussain	42	Sexual intercourse with a girl under 13	13 years
2017	Amjad Ali	36	Sexual intercourse with a girl under 13	11 years
2017	Zalgai Ahmadi	45	Conspiracy to commit sexual assault and false imprisonment	9 years, 6 months
2017	Sajid Ali	38	Seven counts of indecent assault	7 years, 6 months
2017	Zaheer Iqbal	40	Five counts of indecent assault	7 years, 6 months
2017	Riaz Makhmood	39	Three counts of indecent assault	6 years, 9 months
2018	Asghar Bostan	47	One count of rape	9 years
2018	Tony Chapman	42	Seventeen child sexual abuse offences	25 years
2018	Khurram Javed	35	One count of sexual assault	2 years
2018	Darren Hyett	55	One count of sexual activity with a child	9 years
2019	Mohammed Imran Ali Akhtar	37	One count of rape, one count of aiding and abetting rape, three counts of indecent assault, one count of procuring a girl under 21 to have unlawful sexual intercourse with another and count of sexual assault	23 years
2018	Nabeel Kurshid	39	Two counts of rape and one count of sexual assault	19 years
2018	Iqlak Yousaf	34	Two counts of rape and two counts of indecent assault	20 years
2018	Tanweer Ali	37	Two counts of rape, two counts of indecent assault and one count of false imprisonment	14 years
2018	Salah Ahmed El-Hakam	39	One count of rape	15 years
2018	Asif Ali	33	Two counts of indecent assaults	10 years
2018	Unnamed Man	Unknown	Two counts of rape	unknown
2019	Aftab Hussain	40	Two counts of indecent assault	24 years
2019	Abid Saddiq	38	Two counts of rape, four counts of indecent assault and two counts of child abduction	20 years
2019	Masaued Malik	35	Three counts of indecent assault	5 years
2019	Sharaz Hussain	35	Four counts of indecent assault	4 years
2019	Mohammed Ashen	35	Three counts of indecent assault	18 years
2019	Waseem Khaliq	35	Two counts of child abduction, three counts of witness intimidation and indecent assault	13 years 9 months
2019	Unnamed Man	unknown	Two counts of indecent assault	unknown
2023	Neil Cawton	68	Four counts of sexual activity with a child, four counts of engaging in sexual activity in the presence of a child, one count of assault of a child under 13 by penetration	10 years
2023	Ishtiaq Khaliq	40	One count of Indecent assault, one count of theft	2 years
2023	Mohammed Imran Ali Akhtar	42	Two counts of rape, two counts of indecent assault	12 years
2024	David Saynor	77	18 sexual offences against eight victims	24 years
2024	Adam Ali	43	Four counts of rape, three counts of sexual assault	13 years
2024	Neil King	51	17 offences against a girl	21 years
2024	Mohammed Amar	42	Two counts of indecent assault on a girl aged 11	14 years
2024	Mohammed Siyab	44	Two counts of rape and trafficking for sexual exploitation	24 years
2024	Mohammed Zameer Sadiq	49	Unlawful sexual intercourse with a girl under the age of 13 and rape	15 years
2024	Ramin Bari	37	Four counts of rape	9 years
2024	Tahir Yassin	38	Eight counts of rape	13 years
2024	Yasser Ajaibe	39	Indecent assault of a girl aged 11	6 years
2024	Waleed Ali	42	Rape of a girl aged 14	5 years
2024	Shahid Hussain	48	Indecent assault against girl aged 14	8 years and deportation

 

[MNW67]

Nope. Anytime. There's plenty of cases of the polar opposite but all some on here just want to point out is the crimes committed by mainly individual white perverts, not organised grooming/rape gangs in many cities. There must be reason for that don't you think? Cultural?

But the latest stats show that 70% of group child sexual exploitation is carried out by white British men. That was what I thought the stats said anyway.

I am sure that there is a cultural aspect. I have heard second hand of a couple of cases of young Muslim Asian men telling their friends that they have had consensual sexual relationships with white women but that they would never marry them.

 

[Mottie]

like these

Or these

Perhaps these


Yeah, I saw that too

2010	Razwan Razaq	30	Sexual activity with a child	11 years[49]
2010	Umar Razaq	24	Sexual activity with a child	4 years, 6 months (later reduced on appeal)
2010	Zafran Ramzan	21	Rape, sexual activity with a child	9 years
2010	Mohsin Khan	21	Sexual activity with a child	4 years
2010	Adil Hussain	20	Sexual activity with a child	4 years
2016	Qurban Ali	53	Conspiracy to rape	10 years
2016	Arshid Hussain	40	Rape, indecent assault (23 charges)	35 years
2016	Basharat Hussain	39	Rape (15 charges)	25 years
2016	Bannaras Hussain	36	Rape, indecent assault, actual bodily harm (10 charges)	19 years
2016	Karen MacGregor	58	False imprisonment, conspiracy to procure prostitutes	13 years
2016	Shelley Davies	40	False imprisonment, conspiracy to procure prostitutes	18 months suspended
2016	Sageer Hussain	30	4 rapes, indecent assault	19 years[50]
2016	Basharat Hussain	40	Indecent assault	7 years
2016	Ishtiaq Khaliq	33	Rape, three indecent assaults	17 years
2016	Masoued Malik	32	Rape, false imprisonment, conspiracy to commit indecent assault	15 years
2016	Waleed Ali	34	Rape, indecent assault	13 years
2016	Asif Ali	30	Rape	12 years
2016	Naeem Rafiq	33	Conspiracy to commit indecent assault, false imprisonment	8 years
2016	Mohammed Whied	32	Aiding and abetting rape	5 years
2017	Basharat Dad	32	Rape, indecent assault, and false imprisonment	20 years
2017	Nasser Dad	36	Rape, false imprisonment, inciting gross indecency with a child	14 years, 6 months
2017	Tayab Dad	34	Rape	10 years
2017	Mohammed Sadiq	41	Sexual intercourse with a girl under 13	13 years
2017	Matloob Hussain	42	Sexual intercourse with a girl under 13	13 years
2017	Amjad Ali	36	Sexual intercourse with a girl under 13	11 years
2017	Zalgai Ahmadi	45	Conspiracy to commit sexual assault and false imprisonment	9 years, 6 months
2017	Sajid Ali	38	Seven counts of indecent assault	7 years, 6 months
2017	Zaheer Iqbal	40	Five counts of indecent assault	7 years, 6 months
2017	Riaz Makhmood	39	Three counts of indecent assault	6 years, 9 months
2018	Asghar Bostan	47	One count of rape	9 years
2018	Tony Chapman	42	Seventeen child sexual abuse offences	25 years
2018	Khurram Javed	35	One count of sexual assault	2 years
2018	Darren Hyett	55	One count of sexual activity with a child	9 years
2019	Mohammed Imran Ali Akhtar	37	One count of rape, one count of aiding and abetting rape, three counts of indecent assault, one count of procuring a girl under 21 to have unlawful sexual intercourse with another and count of sexual assault	23 years
2018	Nabeel Kurshid	39	Two counts of rape and one count of sexual assault	19 years
2018	Iqlak Yousaf	34	Two counts of rape and two counts of indecent assault	20 years
2018	Tanweer Ali	37	Two counts of rape, two counts of indecent assault and one count of false imprisonment	14 years
2018	Salah Ahmed El-Hakam	39	One count of rape	15 years
2018	Asif Ali	33	Two counts of indecent assaults	10 years
2018	Unnamed Man	Unknown	Two counts of rape	unknown
2019	Aftab Hussain	40	Two counts of indecent assault	24 years
2019	Abid Saddiq	38	Two counts of rape, four counts of indecent assault and two counts of child abduction	20 years
2019	Masaued Malik	35	Three counts of indecent assault	5 years
2019	Sharaz Hussain	35	Four counts of indecent assault	4 years
2019	Mohammed Ashen	35	Three counts of indecent assault	18 years
2019	Waseem Khaliq	35	Two counts of child abduction, three counts of witness intimidation and indecent assault	13 years 9 months
2019	Unnamed Man	unknown	Two counts of indecent assault	unknown
2023	Neil Cawton	68	Four counts of sexual activity with a child, four counts of engaging in sexual activity in the presence of a child, one count of assault of a child under 13 by penetration	10 years
2023	Ishtiaq Khaliq	40	One count of Indecent assault, one count of theft	2 years
2023	Mohammed Imran Ali Akhtar	42	Two counts of rape, two counts of indecent assault	12 years
2024	David Saynor	77	18 sexual offences against eight victims	24 years
2024	Adam Ali	43	Four counts of rape, three counts of sexual assault	13 years
2024	Neil King	51	17 offences against a girl	21 years
2024	Mohammed Amar	42	Two counts of indecent assault on a girl aged 11	14 years
2024	Mohammed Siyab	44	Two counts of rape and trafficking for sexual exploitation	24 years
2024	Mohammed Zameer Sadiq	49	Unlawful sexual intercourse with a girl under the age of 13 and rape	15 years
2024	Ramin Bari	37	Four counts of rape	9 years
2024	Tahir Yassin	38	Eight counts of rape	13 years
2024	Yasser Ajaibe	39	Indecent assault of a girl aged 11	6 years
2024	Waleed Ali	42	Rape of a girl aged 14	5 years
2024	Shahid Hussain	48	Indecent assault against girl aged 14	8 years and deportation

There will always be exceptions to any rule. They don’t appear to be related or working out of the same mini cab office in the same town of the same ethnicity targeting another ethnicity. though. You know very well what I am talking about and it’s as if you are an apologist for the organised gangs. No change there.

 

[noseall]

but all some on here just want to point out is the crimes committed by mainly individual white perverts, not organised grooming/rape gangs in many cities as if that will somehow cancel out the crimes committed by these gangs. Two wrongs don't make a right but it doesn’t stop them trying. There must be reason for that don't you think? What could it be?

Most rational folk want all crimes against children investigated, prosecuted and followed up. You have said yourself that you are only interested in Asian grooming gangs, whilst ignoring that in fact, the most deplorable acts of depravity (grooming pregnant moms so that they can rape their babies) is committed exclusively by white British gangs.
Some folk on here are astonished that you chose to ignore a large majority of crimes, merely to focus on the few.

Why could that be....

 

[Mottie]

But the latest stats show that 70% of group child sexual exploitation is carried out by white British men. That was what I thought the stats said anyway.

I’m specifically talking about gangs of one culture targeting girls of a different culture.

 

[Mottie]

Most rational folk want all crimes against children investigated, prosecuted and followed up.

As do I.

You have said yourself that you are only interested in Asian grooming gangs,
Some folk on here are astonished that you chose to ignore a large majority of crimes, merely to focus on the few.

Why could that be....

In this thread because they have seen to have been protected, ignored or covered up because of their race. That’s not right.

All monsters should be prosecuted no matter what their race.

 

[MNW67]

I’m specifically talking about gangs of one culture targeting girls of a different culture.

I can see that. Does that make it any worse, though. Or more worthy of investigation. I am still trying to work out what the point of yet another inquiry would be, other than to stir up racial hatred.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

As do I.

Good

In this thread

Never seen you start or contribute to other threads about other examples

because they have seen to have been protected, ignored or covered up because of their race. That’s not right.

Cover ups ? Where do you want to start?

You're not seriously suggesting it's just Asian gangs that are covered up ?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I can see that. Does that make it any worse, though. Or more worthy of investigation. I am still trying to work out what the point of yet another inquiry would be, other than to stir up racial hatred.

That's what some want though.

Not address the actual issues already discovered, just create more division

 

[Mottie]

I can see that. Does that make it any worse, though. Or more worthy of investigation.

I think it worthy to investigate why certain gangs have not been investigated.

I am still trying to work out what the point of yet another inquiry would be, other than to stir up racial hatred.

And that’s what the authorities are frightened of - being called racists because of the ethnicity of the offenders.

 

[noseall]

There will always be exceptions to any rule. They don’t appear to be related or working out of the same mini cab office in the same town of the same ethnicity targeting another ethnicity.

Ah, so that's your premise for action. Gotcha. Here's us thinking you gave a shít about paedo crimes against children, rather than a pathetic anti-Muslim crusade.
So let's get this straight - unless they organise themselves out of an Asian community and are related to one another, then they are not even worth investigating?
Massive paedo apologist right there.

it’s as if you are an apologist for the organised gangs. No change there.

Explain?