Rape gangs. Why does the Home Office minister not want a national public enquiry?

[diy_fun_uk]

It's racist if you point out the rapists ethnicity but it's not racist if you point out the ethnicity of their victims?

Despite the fact the victims themselves say they specifically had the colour of their skin used against them... it's still not racist.

Have I got that right?

Will it be true, a fact, that some Pakistani men consider white females to be lesser compared to their own?

Yes.

Maybe quite a high number of them, who knows. Just as some white men will consider brown/black females to be lesser than their own.

This isn't, sorry I mean shouldn't, be relevant to the authorities. As I keep on saying, everyone should be treated equally by our authorities and legal system.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

So if 85% of men are white/white British and they make up just 42% of offenders. Even someone with half a functioning brain will be able to see this is a significant under representation of white/white British.

I don't expect the forum trolls to understand this, but its there for anyone else who wants a read.

What is your point?

What do you want to happen?

What would appease you with all of this?

For me, the answer is straightforward. 'The law' should deal with everyone equally.

 

[noseall]

It is not white British males committing the majority of rape abuse against kids, via rape gangs. There are plenty of official reports confirming this and I have posted them for the forum idiots to appraise themselves of.

WRONG.

 

[blup]

My (very basic) understanding is that Parliament is sovereign, except in cases where we are subject to international treaties and agreements. So, in theory, if we opt out of these, the government is free to revoke any existing protections against discrimination and pass laws making it legal again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentary_sovereignty#History

Whatever Parliament decides, we are subject to international law, how else did the Narzi’s get prosecuted post war

 

[motorbiking]

WRONG.

I didn't expect you to understand the concept of statistical relevance.

I was assuming you would go with "irrelevant waffle".

 

[denso13]

 

[motorbiking]

What is your point?

What do you want to happen?

What would appease you with all of this?

For me, the answer is straightforward. 'The law' should deal with everyone equally.

You will always find pockets of crime linked with certain groups of people. Its based on who knows who, not necessarily any culture.

Starmer is facing acquisitions and he either ignores them of addresses them. Getting cross and complaining people are spreading lies will just make people think he has something to hide. I suspect he has very good reasons along with anyone in the CPS at the time.

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If only you read the whole report.

 

[noseall]

You will always find pockets of crime linked with certain groups of people.

Correct. The same applies to ethnic minorities.

However this...

It is not white British males committing the majority of rape abuse against kids, via rape gangs. There are plenty of official reports confirming this and I have posted them for the forum idiots to appraise themselves of.

Is WRONG, false, a lie, bullshít.

Suck it up boyo.

 

[Notch7]

The forum trolls think that in a country where ~85-90% of the male population identify as White British, there is a statistical relevance if they are frequently perpetrators of crime. Of course anyone with more that 2 brain cells knows that statistical relevance is all that matters.

Unfortunately the trolls read one single line and conclude it supports their argument. Sadly, they never bother to read the detail. The devil is always in the detail.

Paragraph 76 says it all

Paragraph 76 says:

Due to the amount of missing data, both basic offender information and ethnicity specifically, these figures should be treated with caution
note that conclusions from other reports say this: "it is likely that no one community or culture is uniquely predisposed to offending".

Maybe Motorbiking shouldn’t cherrypick his sources




The Home Office commissioned a study of the available data in 2020, external. It said:

• "The academic literature highlights significant limitations to what can be said about links between ethnicity and this form of offending."
• "Research has found that group-based child sexual exploitation offenders are most commonly white."
• "Some studies suggest an over-representation of Black and Asian offenders relative to the demographics of national populations."

It found there was limited research on offender identity and poor quality data, which made it difficult to draw conclusions, however "it is likely that no one community or culture is uniquely predisposed to offending".
A previous piece of research from 2015 found that of 1,231 perpetrators of "group and gang-based child sexual exploitation", 42% were white, 14% were defined as Asian or Asian British and 17% black.

Grooming gangs and ethnicity: What does the evidence say?

Home Secretary Suella Braverman made several comments about the ethnicity of some high-profile gangs.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[noseall]

Maybe Motorbiking shouldn’t cherrypick his sources

He doesn't read his own links. I tore him a new one regards the last report his told us 'idiots' to read. Massive own goal from the forum liar.

 

[motorbiking]

Correct. The same applies to ethnic minorities.

However this...

Is WRONG, false, a lie, bullshít.

Suck it up boyo.

Its 100% correct and its what the data shows.

Paragraph 76 says:

Due to the amount of missing data, both basic offender information and ethnicity specifically, these figures should be treated with caution
note that conclusions from other reports say this: "it is likely that no one community or culture is uniquely predisposed to offending".

Maybe Motorbiking shouldn’t cherrypick his sources




The Home Office commissioned a study of the available data in 2020, external. It said:

• "The academic literature highlights significant limitations to what can be said about links between ethnicity and this form of offending."
• "Research has found that group-based child sexual exploitation offenders are most commonly white."
• "Some studies suggest an over-representation of Black and Asian offenders relative to the demographics of national populations."

It found there was limited research on offender identity and poor quality data, which made it difficult to draw conclusions, however "it is likely that no one community or culture is uniquely predisposed to offending".
A previous piece of research from 2015 found that of 1,231 perpetrators of "group and gang-based child sexual exploitation", 42% were white, 14% were defined as Asian or Asian British and 17% black.

Grooming gangs and ethnicity: What does the evidence say?

Home Secretary Suella Braverman made several comments about the ethnicity of some high-profile gangs.

www.bbc.co.uk

Its from the same report.

In a country where 85% of men are white/white British, if 42% of those convicted of CSE are white/white British. Clearly - white/white British are significantly under represented.

its not hard to get your head round.

 

[Sunshine32]

Will it be true, a fact, that some Pakistani men consider white females to be lesser compared to their own?

Yes.

Maybe quite a high number of them, who knows. Just as some white men will consider brown/black females to be lesser than their own.

This isn't, sorry I mean shouldn't, be relevant to the authorities. As I keep on saying, everyone should be treated equally by our authorities and legal system.

Do you see the double standards in the particular case of the grooming rape gangs though. The colour of the perps skin trumped the colour of the victims skin.

The colour of a person's skin has done a lot of heavy lifting.

That's why we must leave the ECHR and dispense with the Equality Act.

 

[Nwgs2]

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proceeded against

 

[ellal]

That's why we must leave the ECHR and dispense with the Equality Act.

So you don't wish to have human rights and equalities applied to yourself, family and friends?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Do you see the double standards in the particular case of the grooming rape gangs though. The colour of the perps skin trumped the colour of the victims skin.

The colour of a person's skin has done a lot of heavy lifting.

That's why we must leave the ECHR and dispense with the Equality Act.

What !