replacing my thermal store and boiler…Help in specifying

[shambolic]

Why should plastic be any different to copper tube?

The jury is out on this, does copper kill bacteria, does it have to be wet or dry, but as a starting point for your own research :-

http://investmentwatchblog.com/copper-kills-99-9-of-bacteria-within-two-hours/

Must google everything.
Bet you are a great laughs doon the pub.
" I had steak for dinner tonight" 5 minutes later your reply. " did you know the worlds rainforests are in danger due to beef farming? And that the optimum temperature to cook a steak is 83.75deg and that the best griddle is 11.4mmthick and that if you don't cook it right there are loads of bacteria blah blah blah..........?"

 

[bernardgreen]

Must google everything.

Copper and micro-biology, basis knowledge obtained from a previous employment ( food processing equipment ).

 

[Ray Tay]

shambolic wrote: 'Must google everything. Bet you are a great laughs doon the pub'.

Bernard knew more than you for sure. Maybe you should expand your mind and do some Googling. You would be far better off if you spent your time Googling instead of wasting it throwing insults at those whop are more knowledgeable than yourself. Try Googling how a Systemate works.

 

[Dan Robinson]

yeah @shambolic, what do you know

FFS, priceless.

 

[Ray Tay]

bernardgreen wrote 'Copper and micro-biology, basis knowledge obtained from a previous employment ( food processing equipment )'

Yes, I recall copper can kill bacteria. So a copper coil for instantly heated hot water or a coil only for a shower is the way to go. But Bernard, there is always a but, in a hard water area the scale will form a barrier from the fresh water when it forms a lining inside the copper coil, and it is then there no different to plastic. The expansion and contraction of plastic pipe will ensure no scale build up. The longevity of plastic is the only point that matters.

There are plastic hot water cylinders around. A "plastic" thermal store using coils.....
http://en.rotex-heating.com/products/hot-water-storage-tank.html
Neat....
http://en.rotex-heating.com/products/boiler/gas-condensing.html

 

[PullerGas]

FFS!! 'Beam me up Scotty'!!
This pair are something else!!

 

[Ray Tay]

All the advanced stuff is foreign, while Britain and its tradesmen stay in the 1950s. The Czech pcb made the Systemate, one pcb that controls all of the heating and hot water in a place. The pcb is used by many makers on the Continent; a ~25-30 year old device! Any maker can use it. And now these plastic products, all Continental. The most advanced boilers available in Britain are not made here either. The same with the control gear. They have just got over the shock of dropping lead piping and galvanised cold water tanks. It is sad really.

I know in Germany their apprenticeship schemes are far more involved and advanced than here. Education, education, education.

 

[rules&rulers]

creamcrackers, The temperatures around the Systemate can be seen from the LED on the pcb. If the plate heat exchanger is scaled up it is a simple matter of screwing one in and out. That is a DIY job. The water on the heating rads side is separate to the water in the Systemate's cylinder.

The temperature at the shower or hot water tap is what I asked, has it been checked. its such an easy job to check the temperature but many people forget the basics.

 

[bernardgreen]

The Czech pcb made the Systemate,

Pektron, Last I heard they were a UK PCB design and manufacturing company based in Derby, UK

 

[Dan Robinson]

The Czech pcb made the Systemate,

Pektron, Last I heard they were a UK PCB design and manufacturing company based in Derby, UK

And what other PCBs are they known for?

The famous Isar by any chance?

 

[bernardgreen]

And what other PCBs are they known for?

You would be very surprised,

www.pektron.com/sectors

www.pektron.com/what-we-do/design-development

 

[shambolic]

yeah @shambolic, what do you know

FFS, priceless.

I worked on thousands of systemates, boiler mates, boiler mate 2000s etc nothing but fecking bother with sensors and pumps and pcbs forever fecking up.
Not to mention the whole upstairs of the house too warm in summer due to this massive big storage tank radiating heat.
I give up. I really do

 

[shambolic]

shambolic wrote: 'Must google everything. Bet you are a great laughs doon the pub'.

Bernard knew more than you for sure. Maybe you should expand your mind and do some Googling. You would be far better off if you spent your time Googling instead of wasting it throwing insults at those whop are more knowledgeable than yourself. Try Googling how a Systemate works.

Ps what systemate? The A class? The boiler mate, boiler mate 2000 etc? Yeah let's put 3 grundfos pumps, 4 sensors and a plate heat exchanger all controlled by a PCB that doesn't know if it's new year or New York.
They were ****e.
I'd rather have gravity hot water, pumped central heating in my hoose

 

[Davie Jones]

shambolic wrote: 'Must google everything. Bet you are a great laughs doon the pub'.

Bernard knew more than you for sure. Maybe you should expand your mind and do some Googling. You would be far better off if you spent your time Googling instead of wasting it throwing insults at those whop are more knowledgeable than yourself. Try Googling how a Systemate works.

Ps what systemate? The A class? The boiler mate, boiler mate 2000 etc? Yeah let's put 3 grundfos pumps, 4 sensors and a plate heat exchanger all controlled by a PCB that doesn't know if it's new year or New York.
They were ****e.
I'd rather have gravity hot water, pumped central heating in my hoose

You've forgotten the Electramate with the self igniting contactors...

 

[Dan Robinson]

Were they as good as the Pulsecoil?

Was it the Accolade they flogged to inner city developers trying to shoe horn flats into areas where the gas supply couldn't service the building? Have a couple of developments in Camden and Victoria that had dealings with Gledhill thermal stores. All ripped out and replaced with stand alone electric boilers and Unvented cylinders.