Safety of Rwanda (Asylum and Immigration) Draft Bill

[JohnD]

Remind me next time you deliberately misquote and play dumb.

remind me if I ever sneer at a woman for wearing a suit

Or I ever suggest that you support Braverman or Patel because you want to "bone " them

Or you masturbate because racist politicians excite you.

Luckily I am not a stupid racist misogynist like you.

 

[motorbiking]

A reminder of what I said.

“I can see past the pretty face and Lawyer like suit - to see a useful idiot, who is currently unemployed and doesn't appear to have a grasp of facts.”

She does appear to be unemployed
She has misrepresented the facts.

Her claims are wrong and all the swivelling and swerving won’t change that. She is a lobbyist not an independent expert.

 

[Roy Bloom]

A reminder of what I said.

“I can see past the pretty face and Lawyer like suit - to see a useful idiot, who is currently unemployed and doesn't appear to have a grasp of facts.”

She does appear to be unemployed
She has misrepresented the facts.

Her claims are wrong and all the swivelling and swerving won’t change that. She is a lobbyist not an independent expert.

Her response to the question was precise, eloquent and correct.
Her response did not satisfy you because she didn't answer a question that she wasn't asked, and because you don't like the real facts to be presented in such an eloquent, precise, and accurate way.

Do I need to remind you of the question again?

 

[JohnD]

She does appear to be unemployed

Sneering again.

 

[noseall]

Sneering again.

I think he'd spit on her if he could. 'Unemployed..' he spat out, stating it twice in one post for effect.

Pale, male stale woman-hating gammon. I don't think there is a worse kind of Tory.

 

[noseall]

A reminder of what I said.

A reminder of the thread topic.

A bill so good that the immigration minister quit.

Useless Tory scum.

 

[motorbiking]

I answered post 16. The Bill will get stuck because it's not a manifesto policy. I suspect they are thinking they might be able to get a leadership change in before an even more disastrous election defeat.

 

[noseall]

The Bill will get stuck because it's not a manifesto policy

Not what (his own) ministers are saying...
"....members of his own party, who have concluded that his Rwanda bill is not fit for purpose....."

Manifesto policy my arse.

 

[Roy Bloom]

I answered pot 16. The Bill will get stuck because it's not a manifesto policy. I suspect they are thinking they might be able to get a leadership change in before an even more disastrous election defeat.

You're going round in ever-decreasing circles, and getting no where.

Your response to noseall's comment is quoted above.
But his post was about your post number 182, which is quoted below:

A reminder of what I said.

“I can see past the pretty face and Lawyer like suit - to see a useful idiot, who is currently unemployed and doesn't appear to have a grasp of facts.”

She does appear to be unemployed
She has misrepresented the facts.

Her claims are wrong and all the swivelling and swerving won’t change that. She is a lobbyist not an independent expert.

And your post number 16, way back on page 2, which you claim to have answered was your own post, quoted below:

Are we discussing the new bill or the bias views of those who don't voters conservative?

- the Bill is not a manifesto pledge so it cannot be fast tracked through the lords. It will get stuck.
- the right wing in the Conservative Party are a minority. Unfortunately they stoke the opinions of many.

The only way Rishi is getting the boot, is if they think they can win with Rishi 2.0 whoever that is. If they lose, Rishi gets the boot anyway and they have 5 years to get their act together

Are you seriouisly expecting us to believe that you are now answering your own question, 12 pages, 171 posts after you asked the questions?
Why would you do that?
Your question, in that post was "Are we discussing the new bill or the bias views of those who don't voters conservative?"
You claim your answer, in response to your own question printed above, was:

A reminder of what I said.

“I can see past the pretty face and Lawyer like suit - to see a useful idiot, who is currently unemployed and doesn't appear to have a grasp of facts.”

She does appear to be unemployed
She has misrepresented the facts.

Her claims are wrong and all the swivelling and swerving won’t change that. She is a lobbyist not an independent expert.

You've completely lost the plot, going ropund in circles, trying to cover up your blatant misogynistic atittude.

 

[motorbiking]

Not what (his own) ministers are saying...
"....members of his own party, who have concluded that his Rwanda bill is not fit for purpose....."

Manifesto policy my arse.

Even if he has the numbers without those showing descent and he might - It will get stuck with the Lords. It's going nowhere.

If he is defeated in the vote, I suspect a no confidence is coming.

The reason the manifesto is important, is because the PM has the power to force through legislation that is in his party's manifesto on a fast tracked time table. Lords cannot get in the way. However, since this wasn't it can be held up and it will.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Even if he has the numbers without those showing descent and he might - It will get stuck with the Lords. It's going nowhere.

If he is defeated in the vote, I suspect a no confidence is coming.

One wonders why the Tory party strung a rope round their own necks, when there are far more important and obvious issues to deal with.
If you adopt a flagship policy that is doomed to failure, what does that say for your own judgement?

 

[motorbiking]

They were delivered a landslide. All they had to do is quietly get on with the job. Instead they have had 2 civil wars and it looks like they are about to have a 3rd.

 

[noseall]

Even if he has the numbers without those showing descent and he might - It will get stuck with the Lords. It's going nowhere.

If he is defeated in the vote, I suspect a no confidence is coming.

The reason the manifesto is important, is because the PM has the power to force through legislation that is in his party's manifesto on a fast tracked time table. Lords cannot get in the way. However, since this wasn't it can be held up and it will.

Irrelevant waffle.

This snippet though, isn't irrelevant

 

[noseall]

They were delivered a landslide.

What could possibly go wrong with Boris at the helm....

Shmucks.

 

[Roy Bloom]

They were delivered a landslide. All they had to do is quietly get on with the job. Instead they have had 2 civil wars and it looks like they are about to have a 3rd.

They were delivered a landslide because they invented and manufactured a problem. The electorate were duped into adopting the Tory's manufactured problem.
If you stop processing the asylum seekers, the backlog grows but you still have to accomodate them, the bill for that grows, it becomes a drain on resources and it becomes a problem of your own making.,
The boat arrivals account for about 3% of the total immigration, yet consume a vast amount of Tory, parliament and the justice system's time management.