Someone is trying to start a war in the Ukraine, It's NOT Russia (edit: yes it is)

Actually neither did you. Post after post that he had no intention of invading Ukraine.

As you full well know you said you read x amount of pages. I will try once with you but know where you are coming from and give your username the benefits of the doubts.

It was not just me pal that did not believe putin would invade, NOR DID THE LEADER of UKRAINE hence his inactions until a couple of hours before the attacks, FACT

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60468264

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60468264

Importantly something people shy away from now i posted many times that compromises would need to be made for a ceasefire and putin would never give up Crimea/Donbas and was trolled by the trolls here with abuse. Are you in agreement with me re the ceasefire and compromises as set out by me for a long while here??

Good morning.
 
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It was known for certain well in advance that Russia intended to invade from radio traffic picked up by the spooks - all that was missing was the actual day. I say spooks, apparently the Russian system is so crap you can listen in yourself with a basic device off ebay.
 
It was not just me pal that did not believe putin would invade

but hummy spouted his declarations and assurances and claimed that he had secret intelligence sources.

He simply spout barrowloads of verbose nonsense to make himself feel big.
 
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It was known for certain well in advance that Russia intended to invade from radio traffic picked up by the spooks - all that was missing was the actual day. I say spooks, apparently the Russian system is so crap you can listen in yourself with a basic device off ebay.

Thanks pal but you've not stated why the leaders of UKRAINE were not aware and only brought in the emergency powers that midnight ie a couple of hours before the attacks!!

thanks

:) :)
 
Ukraine was aware but were sceptical about western intelligence. There was a lot of verbal from Biden, EU and UK but all the while it was business-as-usual - right up to the hour - leading Ukraine to believe the West weren't taking the threat that seriously. In reality it wasn't speculation, it was certain and was just a case of when? Don't think Ukraine weren't preparing though, they certainly were, as is obvious.
 
Ukraine was aware but were sceptical about western intelligence. There was a lot of verbal from Biden, EU and UK but all the while it was business-as-usual - right up to the hour - leading Ukraine to believe the West weren't taking the threat that seriously. In reality it wasn't speculation, it was certain and was just a case of when? Don't think Ukraine weren't preparing though, they certainly were, as is obvious.

"certainly were, as is obvious":ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Mate, you are pulling my legs, yes!! "obvious! lol, hence their marshall law/curfew the very midnight a couple of hours before the start of the invasion - incredible, lol

Thank you for posting how it was but then failing to recognise the fact that a country with around 200o troops and thousands of tanks etc amassed on their border did not act until a few hours before it happened. This is why no one was leaving the country etc and that is a fact

You failed to answer the bit about the "ceasefire and compromises" as stated by me and the troll attacking me with nasty stuff and now gone into hiding re this fact to be.
 
Ukraine preparations started in 2021. What threw them was the attack through Belarus which they did not expect. Danilov admitted that they did not fully inform the Ukraine public as it would have caused panic. It's all a matter of record.
 
It's all a matter of record.

It is my previous post a "matter of record" that Ukraine, their leaders not their people thought there was going to be an invasion until a few hours before it happened and that is a fact mate. Accept it or its a fact.
read posts 1171 & 1777.
There is nothing more I can do to make you see the light as I've more than proved you wrong.
 
They would have prepared for it, everybody that borders with Russia prepares for it.
They had javelins very early on, these don't just appear out of thin air. Plus I remember a news report from at least a week before the invasion interviewing British mercenaries that were helping with preparations near the border. They knew it was coming.
 
As each day passes, I fear we are effectively at the start of WW3.

WW2 took a year from Germany annexing Sudetenland in 1938 to its invasion of Poland and almost 2 years before it invaded France. They need to win Ukraine first, when they do, they manage that, mobilise more troops all along European border, and prepare for full war, which is likely to take place outside of Russia to start with, in Ukraine, Bellarus etc.

Now they will be negotiating alliances and determining if it is a war they want to try to win.
 
China has "rejected" USA "lies" that they asked them for military aid. Why the lies and wind up china?

Better news the talks have started and new humanitarian routes agreed.
 
It is obvious who China is allied with, no surprise they are denying everything.
 
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