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I really don't understand why the hatred towards speed cameras. :eek:

If you don't speed you don't get fined. End of! :rolleyes:


OF course if you are marginally over ( by a few miles per hr) I have sympathy but 40 in a 30 deserves a nice fat fine AND 12 points.:cool:
 
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Dont TRY and stick to the limits, just stick to them. Its not hard

Tell you what, Keith my surveyor can have the day off driving and you can be his driver. Tomorrow you'll be at the yard at 7am (Birmingham) then you've got to go and meet the scaffolders in Stourbridge for 8. After then there is a quote I need doing in Worcester where you'll be meeting the client there around 10am and then do the survey/measure. Then you've got to type the quote and email it to me (you can have lunch at the same time). Then you've got to go to two Tamworth jobs and then sort out a problem with a lady in Walsall.

Somehow if you drive like Miss Daisy then I don't think you are gonna get all these things done and Keith isn't going to be overly pleased. Sometimes you have to be a little bit naughty and break the speed limit, where safe, just by a little bit, to cope with everyday targets. We're not still in the early seventies driving Austin Princesses with drum brakes all round and slimy tyres :rolleyes:
 
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Dont TRY and stick to the limits, just stick to them. Its not hard

Tell you what, Keith my surveyor can have the day off driving and you can be his driver. Tomorrow you'll be at the yard at 7am (Birmingham) then you've got to go and meet the scaffolders in Stourbridge for 8. After then there is a quote I need doing in Worcester where you'll be meeting the client there around 10am and then do the survey/measure. Then you've got to type the quote and email it to me (you can have lunch at the same time). Then you've got to go to two Tamworth jobs and then sort out a problem with a lady in Walsall.

Somehow if you drive like Miss Daisy then I don't think you are gonna get all these things done and Keith isn't going to be overly pleased. Sometimes you have to be a little bit naughty and break the speed limit, where safe, just by a little bit, to cope with everyday targets. We're not still in the early seventies driving Austin Princesses with drum brakes all round and slimy tyres :rolleyes:

So your staff are risking possible injuries to themselves and others to keep up with your workload?
 
Not quite true. You can only request photographic evidence, or calibration data from devices if you take the case to court. Some forces/SCP's do send out photographic evidence with the NIP but not many.

I have been told I can request the photographic evidence even if not going to court.

The calibration certs are posted online.
 
The ones who really make me laugh are the pathetic "brake" charity representatives who go on the radio/tv etc with their mindless crap; they want shooting.

DM,
Perhaps they are mindless now but how many were like you before the loss of their loved ones in a crash. I know I was, because it couldn't happen to me or mine.

Do you honestly think these people should be shot because they don't want other families to go through the same pain they have?.



How many people die on roads compared with other forms of transport?

Every day, 8 people die on British roads.

In 2007 (the latest year for which statistics are available) 2,946 people were killed on Britain’s roads [1].

For every death, ten times as many people suffer serious injury. A further 27,774 people were seriously injured in road crashes in 2007.

That’s 77 people every day suffering injuries including brain damage, paralysis, loss of limbs, severe burning or facial disfigurement - injuries that change lives forever.

Another 217,060 people in 2007 sustained minor injuries [1].

Deaths and serious injuries on roads are violent and sudden, ripping apart families and devastating communities. They result in serious mental conditions such as Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and depression as well as devastating grief and social consequences such as loss of work.

Many deaths on roads are tragically young. In 2007, nearly one in 3 deaths (891) were young people and children under the age of 25. [11]

1 in 200 people die on roads [2]. You are far more likely to be killed while crossing the road than in a plane crash. If the same number of people were killed in air crashes - a jumbo jet every fortnight - there would be a national outcry. But deaths on the road are treated, by many, as inevitable. Yet they are preventable tragedies with real causes.

You are 10,000 times more likely to die or be injured in a car journey than on a plane (when comparing casualty rates per billion km travelled in 2006 - latest figures available) [6].

Use the below links to access further information on the extent and consequences of road deaths and injuries

From here
http://www.brake.org.uk/how-many-people-die-on-roads-compared-with-other-forms-of-transport
 
So your staff are risking possible injuries to themselves and others to keep up with your workload?

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Shame some peoples driving skills have not kept pace.

In a modern car with good tyres and ABS, even if your thinking time is doubled, you still stop quicker than in a non-ABS 1980's mobile.

.....Unless your surveyor is on the phone, (even hands free), which reduces your concentration on your driving. No one can be 100% concentration on driving if they are holding a conversation with someone else, be it a passenger sitting next to them or someone on the end of a phone. As an employer you have a legal duty to ensure your employees health and safety is paramount to any business concerns and if this means employing extra staff to reduce the workload on an individual then you must do it. No task/contract or business is worth more than a persons life.
I am not a 'professional/full time driver but often do have to do either site work or deliveries/collections as part of my job. I have seen some ugly sights in my time and it never gets any easier, especially when children are involved, either as pedestrians in an urban area or passengers in a vehicle. If you want to speed or encourage/insist others to do so, then as you make that decision take a second to think, how you would feel if a police officer was to knock on your door to say your son/daughter/mother/father/brother/sister etc had been killed/critically injured by someone driving too fast/not paying attention?
Don't think it always happens to somebody else because to me you are that somebody else and to you I am that somebody else.
Don't be selfish, obey the rules of the road.
 
Dont TRY and stick to the limits, just stick to them. Its not hard

Tell you what, Keith my surveyor can have the day off driving and you can be his driver. Tomorrow you'll be at the yard at 7am (Birmingham) then you've got to go and meet the scaffolders in Stourbridge for 8. After then there is a quote I need doing in Worcester where you'll be meeting the client there around 10am and then do the survey/measure. Then you've got to type the quote and email it to me (you can have lunch at the same time). Then you've got to go to two Tamworth jobs and then sort out a problem with a lady in Walsall.

Somehow if you drive like Miss Daisy then I don't think you are gonna get all these things done and Keith isn't going to be overly pleased. Sometimes you have to be a little bit naughty and break the speed limit, where safe, just by a little bit, to cope with everyday targets. We're not still in the early seventies driving Austin Princesses with drum brakes all round and slimy tyres :rolleyes:

so a nice hotel overnight and plenty of breaks whilst driving...

glad to know that you are a thoughtful employer and do your utmost for your staffs wellbeing and care.....
 
I have been told I can request the photographic evidence even if not going to court.

You can request it yes, but depending on the force in question they wont unless you want to make a plea.

Some forces will actually send the photo regardless of what decision you make
 
I'm with mw roofline, you lot don't live in the real world if you think you can potter about at a snails pace and still do enough work to mate a good living.


Your probably the braindead menaces who do 50 on the motorways in the middle lane stopping lorries overtaking you clogging up the roads, no doubt you stop at all roundabouts and junctions even if there is no other traffic not to mention braking hard at even the slightest curve in the road etc etc etc. You are the real cause of frustration and accidents.


Wouldn't surprise me if you were caravaners; that'd be the icing on the fekkin cake!


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Round my way we are plagued by the head down bum up brigade on there push bikes causing chaos & havoc in the rush hour , theres one idiot that has got one of those bikes were you use your hannds to propel it sits about 2 foot off the ground she has got a flag on it so motorists can see her Chaos that idiot causes !

Than you have the d**k H**d parents gripeing on about how dangerous the local roads are , than send there kids out on rickety old bikes , chain dragging on the ground , no brakes ect !

Every so often ounce a month the 2 retired d**ks , come out the woodwork with there community speed cameras & there dayglow jackets & note books , puffed up with there own self importance , doing there bit for the good of the community :D most of them would 'nt know there backside from a pineapple , they want to do some good , pick some litter up !
 
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