Your wasting your breath Sooey, The do-gooders of society have won the day. Left to these lot (the do-gooders) society will degenerate further with all this human rights claptrap, they spout.
We may be "civilised", but murderers, terrorists, and generally those who plot against society, will continue to receive less and less in the way of meaningful sentences. The way it's going, in 20 yrs, murderers and rapists will be getting community service, whilst speeding motorists will probably be getting 5yrs inside.
For what it's worth, I don't believe society, has become more civilised in the last 40 yrs. The lawmakers , however, have become far too liberal.
You said we voted out hanging. As in we the people. It's never been put to a referendum.
That's not an argument for doing away with the death penalty. It is a good argument for doing away with it in all but cases where there is no doubt about guilt. Which would still leave the likes of Huntley and Brady etc. swinging on the end of a rope.
Not by the ones who've been hung it doesn't.
Now you are just being ridiculous.
inside at the end of June. He was released just before Christmas, having spent only 6 months in jail. Now unemployed/ unemployable, he still has more money than I have (wonder how cause he certainly ain't earning it by legal means) I think I probably understand it as well as or better than you. That doesn't mean I have to agree with it.
Sorry to hear that, however that doesn't give you the right to say that only murder victims families should have a judgement on fitting punishments, we are ALL potential victims or families thereof.
I think it proves that dead murderers never reoffend.
Comparing somebody who isn't sorry to see a murderer die, to somebody who would be glad to see kids hung for stealing bread is ridiculous however you want to put it.
Irrelevant
I'm one of those people who has a view on many different things, and who ocasionally likes to post something about them on this forum. That doesn't mean that I feel strongly enough about my views to campaign on them. Do you ask that stupid question to everybody on every forum you go on who has a different view than you're own?
My stepson (bless him he wouldn't hurt a fly,,,, NOT) was put in prison for almost beating someone to death with an iron bar. The sentence? 10 yrs. He was let out about 18 months ago, after doing about 5 1/2 yrs. Said he'd learn't his lesson and wouldn't ever commit another criminal act in his life.
Last year, he was caught growing cannabis (a house full of the stuff, meter bypassed etc) Police reckon the crop had a street value of around £35,000 (so it's not nor was a small operation) Dragged back to court and given 21 months
Perhaps if judges handed down meaningful sentences (like 21 months meaning a full 21 months, or 20 yrs meaning 20 yrs) crime might well decline (don't hold your breath though, because for every criminal, I'm sure there's 20 do-gooders claiming that those who commit crime are the real victims),,,,,, (not of course the actual victims of crime, they have very few people to speak up for them))
Then, they are not prisons. Too much carrot, and not enough stick in my opinion. I'm far from being alone in my views.
