Thinking of getting the booster

[SirGalahad]

And the trouble is those with a vested interest in the vaccine will do their best to debunk and call her a crank as they are doing with dalglesh and several other cancer specialist who have been voicing their concerns for some time now

Links to these guys debunking the vaccine - nothing is wthout its risks.

 

[Notch7]

So why is this 5th booster or whatever number it is only for the vulnerable or over 70 s
What has changed what testing has been done to say that under 70s no longer need it like they needed all the previous ones

Because the latest covid variants are more infectious but have less severe symptoms

and the most of the population has a level of immunity acquired by previous infection or vaccine

 

[securespark]

Is sneezing part of covid now ?

Yes.

 

[Notch7]

And the trouble is those with a vested interest in the vaccine will do their best to debunk and call her a crank as they are doing with dalglesh and several other cancer specialist who have been voicing their concerns for some time now

And the trouble is those like John Campbell have a vested interest in pushing controversy.

 

[Notch7]

I had been in remission with CKD for over 15 years but was classed as highly vulnerable and urged to have the vaccination. After much thought and deliberation, (and more insistent urging by various people in the medical profession), I had the first two courses, with 12 weeks between them. Didn't have any ill effects but did notice that some of my blood and urine tests went a bit awry. I was told not to worry about them as they were still in acceptable limits. Time for the booster and I was a bit hesitant as my tests were still not back to normal, but again, I was urged to have the booster as it would be best for me. A month later, had the usual tests done and some results had dropped, and others had begun to climb. So started keeping a record on a spreadsheet and graphing my results. One particular result, (albumin: creatinine ratio, or ACR), began to rocket. Reading should preferably be zero but no more than 2.5mg Because of my CKD mine was usually around 13-20mg. After the booster it was climbing, week on week, and within 3 months it was in the low 50's mg I was told not to worry as they would only need to take action if it went over 300mg Over the following months it continued rising, with the odd occasional drop, until within 12 months it was at 297. The time for action had arrived and the best/safest treatment was a course of 2 doses of chemotherapy tailored to suit me personally. During my treatment I was to isolate as much as possible and use full Covid measures, i.e. if I HAD to go out it was face mask, sanitiser, no contact within 2 metres etc. So I was stuck at home most of the time having the odd Teams work meeting to keep in touch. Employers were very good, and I received full pay from mid February to the end of September. Sadly, although my tests are beginning to settle down, I am still not out of remission so still have to take precautions when we go out.
During my idle time at home, I started doing some research to see if the vacs had caused my relapse. At first there was denial everywhere I looked until I discovered a Canadian professor, working in England, who was running a research/screening programme because she was convinced people with CKD (and other autoimmune problems), should never have been vaccinated without more research being done first. It was her opinion that the vaccine had been rolled out far too quickly to be classed as safe for everyone. I am now part of her research and testing programme and a similar one being run by Oxford University. I have to send them my test results each month and, in her opinion, my case, along with many others, is showing there is a high probability that the vaccines did in fact cause me to come out of remission.
So, no chance of me getting this next dose or booster for anyone.

I do hope you return to full remission quickly

 

[gas112]

Because the latest covid variants are more infectious but have less severe symptoms

and the most of the population has a level of immunity acquired by previous infection or vaccine

what are you saying after tens of millions having it and having two boosters then they never had immunity and needed two or 3 more . Now what testing was done to check peoples levels of immunity then and now . Oh yeah none

 

[gas112]

And the trouble is those like John Campbell have a vested interest in pushing controversy.

we are talking about oncologists and those treating cancer on a daily basis who have no interest other than their patients health

 

[carmanmemoranda]

we are talking about oncologists and those treating cancer on a daily basis who have no interest other than their patients health

Does that professor fit into that category?

 

[JohnD]

I can't speak for the good doctor, but she would probably first point out her hippocratic oath, & then mention the possibility that only certain sections of our society really needed to be locked down.

Fat older men, you mean?

 

[gant]

Fat older men, you mean?

Why not fat older women wouldn't they come into the equation.

 

[JohnD]

Why not fat older women wouldn't they come into the equation.

"The age-standardised mortality rate (ASMR) for all-cause death was higher for people with obesity (413.4 and 286.0 deaths per 100,000 person-years for men and women, respectively) than people without obesity (317.6 and 217.8, respectively)"

Obesity and mortality during the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic, England - Office for National Statistics

The risk of death during the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic among people aged 30 to 64 years with and without obesity

www.ons.gov.uk

Single year of age and average age of death of people whose death was due to or involved coronavirus (COVID-19) - Office for National Statistics

Provisional deaths registration data for single year of age and average age of death (median and mean) of persons whose death involved coronavirus (COVID-19), England and Wales. Includes deaths due to COVID-19 and breakdowns by sex.

www.ons.gov.uk

 

[JohnD]

And other factors, of course

"Compared with those who had never smoked, current smokers were 80% more likely to be admitted to hospital and significantly more likely to die from COVID-19."

Smoking highly likely to worsen COVID-19 severity and risk of associated death | BMJ

First study of its kind to pool observational and genetic data to explore relationship Smoking is highly likely to worsen the severity of COVID-19 and the risk of dying from the infection, finds a large UK Biobank study published online in the respiratory journal Thorax. It is the first study of...

www.bmj.com

 

[JohnD]

Especially age

COVID-19 deaths in England 2020-2022, by age | Statista

As of February 17, 2022, there had been approximately 139.5 thousand deaths due to COVID-19 recorded in England.

www.statista.com

 

[JohnD]

And antivaxxers

"The data also showed that about three-quarters – 76.5% – of the older adults who were hospitalized for Covid-19 from January through June had not received a dose of the bivalent Covid-19 vaccine that was recommended at the time, and 16% had not received any Covid-19 vaccination."

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/09/health/older-adults-covid-hospitalizations-cdc-report/index.html

 

[JP_]

Really? Again?
Come on, let's find a new conspiracy to share please.