****** to be obliterated from our history!

[sodthisforfun]

I really can't understand why people are getting so upset about a headstone for a dog, that died 80 odd years ago, being removed.
Or is that they really want to preserve a certain word in the vocabulary?

I can fully understand why someone, today, would name their dog with the 'n' word. It's because they absolutely do want to preserve that word, and use it as often as they can.

Why does not removing a headstone equal preserving a word? It's history.
You do make some really weird assumptions.

 

[Brigadier]

That's a racist, you haven't defined racist as a word in all its uses.

Because "racist" has so many uses (as you have stated above), and it is imho misued so frequently, it is not possible to define it either simply, or accurately.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Niger has only one G, though I agree about others ,if someone from Germany is German, someone from Afghanistan is Afghani, what is someone from Pakistan ?

Pakistani or **** for short.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Why does not removing a headstone equal preserving a word? It's history.
You do make some really weird assumptions.

The point was, is it the headstone for a dog, that died 80 odd years ago, that is important, or is there some other importance that they attach to the headstone?
I find it difficult to believe that anyone would attach such importance to a dog's headstone. If it's so important, just rename the dog. The dog won't care, it's been dead for 80 years, and its owner has been dead for a long time.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Because "racist" has so many uses (as you have stated above), and it is imho misued so frequently, it is not possible to define it either simply, or accurately.

Precisely, so attaching it to the word 'race' is nonsense.
The word race is a social construct used mistakenly in place of ethnicity, nationality, culture, religion, etc.
EFLImpudence insists that anti-semitism must apply to only Semitic people. But, as everyone else, except EFLImpudence, accepts, anti-semitism is used for prejudice against Jews.

 

[sodthisforfun]

The point was, is it the headstone for a dog, that died 80 odd years ago, that is important, or is there some other importance that they attach to the headstone?
I find it difficult to believe that anyone would attach such importance to a dog's headstone. If it's so important, just rename the dog. The dog won't care, it's been dead for 80 years, and its owner has been dead for a long time.

Ok, so what you wrote was nonsense. It's nothing about preserving a word, nor people wanting to name their dog these days the same thing to preserve the word

Take it in context - 80 years ago things were very different.
Better, like the statues, to put another informative notice next to it. People can't erase history, only learn from it.

 

[IT Minion]

Because "racist" has so many uses (as you have stated above), and it is imho misued so frequently, it is not possible to define it either simply, or accurately.

That's not an excuse for not trying, nor does it mean a very narrow interpretation is the only correct one, as EFL seems to.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/dictionary.cambridge.org/amp/english/racist

Edit: also language changes, if a word is used to mean something by enough people for long enough it becomes the definition. Otherwise we'd all say that Gay means happy. Slut means you don't sweep enough and Robot is a term for a Czech slave.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

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I suggest that you're the one that needs to do the reading.
Your ideas are Victorian, out-of-date, and potentially racist.

Your theories, beliefs and ideology is potentially racist because it relies on the ideology of scientific racial differences. That ideology relies on the scientific differentiation of races to justify racism.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Take it in context - 80 years ago things were very different.

We don't live in the past. This is the present, and our behaviour and standards are different.

Better, like the statues, to put another informative notice next to it. People can't erase history, only learn from it.

It's a dog's headstone!

Do we have a headstone for the Michelin Man, Mr Peanut, etc, etc?

Should we have a headstone for the golliwog on jam jars? If we did, should it be removed?

 

[sodthisforfun]

We don't live in the past.

It's a dog's headstone!

Do we have a headstone for the Michelin Man, Mr Peanut, etc, etc?

Should we have a headstone for the golliwog on jam jars? If we did, should it be removed?

More nonsense.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Because "racist" has so many uses (as you have stated above), and it is imho misued so frequently, it is not possible to define it either simply, or accurately.

That might be true, but the clue is your use of the word 'misused'. That is used wrongly.

It is possible that many in positions of apparent authority are no brighter (I'm being polite; I really mean no less dim) than Bobby Dazzler.

 

[Brigadier]

I find it funny that, in a thread about a dog, Himmy comes like he's been whistled for.

 

[IT Minion]

Take it in context - 80 years ago things were very different.
Better, like the statues, to put another informative notice next to it. People can't erase history, only learn from it.

I'd say there's more reason to keep the headstone in place unaltered than, for example, statues like the Bath slaver. A statute is an explicit sign that this person did something good, so that someone is willing to pay for an expensive lump of stone or metal and that someone thinks there should be a place used to hold it rather than a parking space.

A headstone says that someone lived and was missed by others.

 

[Notch7]

I find it funny that, in a thread about a dog, Himmy comes like he's been whistled for.

Some people like gardening, some like sport, Himmy likes endless debates about racism......I'm not sure why.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

More nonsense.

That might be true, but the clue is your use of the word 'misused'. That is used wrongly.

It is possible that many in positions of apparent authority are no brighter (I'm being polite; I really mean no less dim) than Bobby Dazzler.

I find it funny that, in a thread about a dog, Himmy comes like he's been whistled for.

Well, now that I've proved that there is only one race, therefore the use of racism must be a social construct, and is used in place of prejudice or discrimination against others due to their difference in nationality, culture, religion, ethnicity etc., I guess it's time to for you to descend into the usual insults.
It kind of reinforces the fact that arguments based on scientific racism are wrong simply because insults are the only response you have left.