Trump Re Ukraine

[Odds]

Do you not think he does at times?

Even a blind pig finds a truffle now and then.

 

[MNW67]

Mineral deals originally drawn up under Biden, similar deals with the EU.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/04/world/trump-ukraine-minerals-military-aid-intl/index.html

Thanks for the article. I have read several articles now but they all admit that they don't really have any details of what the deal involves. The latest is that the original USA proposal seems to have been rejected and they are looking at something more basic.

 

[IT Minion]

... it is very simple to verify our refute the claim.

Just Google "Are cluster bombs illegal?", and go from there.

Except there's so much detail.

The ones the US exported aren't legal for the US to use themselves because of their age and failure rate under US domestic law. Exporting them to Ukraine was carefully managed to ensure it stayed within US law but is simple under general international laws managing sale of weapons. Ukraine has no laws blocking their use so they're allowed to use them under domestic law, unless the violate the laws of war by using them on inappropriate targets which would be a war crime and probably fall under domestic laws as well.

 

[noseall]

You really are disgusting. That is an awful thing to say.

You prefer lies? The truth too tough for your sensitive soul?

 

[Munroast]

Even a blind pig finds a truffle now and then.

I suspect pigs find truffles by sense of smell - a blind pig would be as good as any others

 

[Brigadier]

Except there's so much detail.

The ones the US exported aren't legal for the US to use themselves because of their age and failure rate under US domestic law. Exporting them to Ukraine was carefully managed to ensure it stayed within US law but is simple under general international laws managing sale of weapons. Ukraine has no laws blocking their use so they're allowed to use them under domestic law, unless the violate the laws of war by using them on inappropriate targets which would be a war crime and probably fall under domestic laws as well.

The claim was wrong.
End of.

 

[Brigadier]

I suspect pigs find truffles by sense of smell - a blind pig would be as good as any others

"The sun shines on a dog's arris sometimes" is a better fit.

 

[IT Minion]

The claim was wrong.
End of.

Of course, look at the source. But there's a thread of truth in the lies that can easily confuse people, especially if it's misrepresented.

 

[Highway Man]

OMG

 

[Highway Man]

in some respects I do, if I was a yank I would probably of voted for him, I think he could be good for america (1) , but as I said before the US election he would be bad for Europe and ultimately us and I didn't want him to win, sleepy Biden was our best bet.
And as it is turning out he is going to be terrible for us, far worse than I ever imagined. And if it was up to me I would tell him to go feck himself, who knows we may even get on better with him if we stood up for ourselves - the alternative is just too unacceptable


(1) I am hoping that his very aggressive approach to everyone (apart from his bum chum putin) will back fire, he is pushing too hard too soon.

You could teach a few on here how to reply to a post. Sensible giving your point and not an insult anywhere. I can see the point you are making without wading through a load of verbal.

 

[fillyboy]

... it is very simple to verify or refute the claim.

Just Google "Are cluster bombs illegal?", and go from there.

Edited for typo

I thought cluster bombs were only illegal if they were used by Israel.

 

[Highway Man]

You prefer lies? The truth too tough for your sensitive soul?

Why do you insist on being this horrible person, can you not accept that some people have different views to yours. I cannot understand why you are so angry.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

EU/UK need to adopt the stance of building a true defence, properly funded, so we're no longer reliant on others. Surely as a collective we have it in our means to achieve this?

Spin the strategy up as quickly as we can, throw money at it, code name 'f*** you'

 

[Brigadier]

 

[transam]

Fact is the Ukranian president was offered a way out of the Ukraine he could have left in the first few days

He refused any offer to run ?

He had travelled the world asking for assistance

Poo tin had him or has him on a hit list

The bloke has conducted his self very well and shown guts

His standing in Ukraine has and will increase due to trumps behaviour / attitude

Which is total contempt for Ukraine as an independent country and there president

Trump is a total fruit cake his ignorance makes George Dubya look
Like a genius

Imho trumps behaviour is bordering on lunacy

Jeez us wept